Genau die meine ich.;)Zitat:
Zitat von Buella
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Genau die meine ich.;)Zitat:
Zitat von Buella
Die Kataris sind nachwievor in Libyen. Das hat der fette Emir zuletzt sogar stolz zugegeben. Es gab auch schon etwas ältere Videos von Panzern mit Katar-Flagge, die in Bengasi rumkurven
Negativ! Das ist definitiv, erkennst DU an der Kommandantenkuppel und der Turmform, Rohrblende und Anbauten ein M60!Zitat:
Zitat von dorbei
http://www.namsa.nato.int/gallery/systems/m60-GR-3.jpgBildquelle
:O
Schlüsselpositionen wie Flughäfen hat man immer mit eigenem Equipment besetzt und die Kontrolle nie den Einheimischen überlassen.Zitat:
Zitat von Buella
Na, das wäre doch nett, wenn die ersten hochoffiziellen katarischen Al CIAda - Truppen in Nato-Diensten in Libyen gegrillt würden?Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
:O
Es ist das erste Bild eines schweren Kampfpanzers, welcher nicht von der libyschen Armee stammt! Es kann somit auch davon ausgegangen werden, daß mit solchem Kriegsgerät in das Kampfgeschehen eingegriffen wurde!Zitat:
Zitat von Quo vadis
Kampfpanzer heißt auch die notwendige Logistik und Truppen! Also nicht nur Special Forces!
Ich weiss gar nicht, warum Du Dich so erregst, er lebt doch http://wuerziworld.de/Smilies/lol/lol30.gifZitat:
Zitat von Buella
http://www.politikforen.net/showthre...5-Gaddafi-lebt
Laut Wikiblödia wurden während des Libyen-Krieges von beiden Seiten vornehmlich russische T-55 verwendet.
Wo glaubst DU geistiger Hinterlader zu erkennen, daß ich erregt sei?Zitat:
Zitat von Thauris
Zeig mal!
Und was soll mir dieser depperte Link sagen?
Wolltest DU was zum Thema beitragen oder DICH bloß wieder entblöden?
Wenn dies DEINE Absicht war, so kann ich feststellen, daß es DIR gelungen wäre?
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Nicht nur! Aber auf jeden Fall Panzer russischer Bauart!Zitat:
Zitat von dorbei
Us-Panzer hatte die libysche Armee keine!
:O
Das ist doch mal eine gute Nachricht! Sakrozy und Konsorten nach Den Haag!Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
heute im focus gelesen,das amerika von anfang an gaddafis tod im sinn hatten.50 französische soldaten standen in der nähe und haben zugesehen,wie gaddafi gelyncht wurde.
Soso, 50 französische Soldaten standen also beim Lynchmord an Gaddafi in der Nähe und haben zugesehen?Zitat:
Zitat von Corpus Delicti
Wie war das nochmal mit den französischen Militärhosen, die ich auf einem Foto gesehen hatte?:D
Hat mir ja keiner glauben wollen.
Du hast ja sicher nichts dagegen das mal zu verlinken - oder?Zitat:
Zitat von Corpus Delicti
Das glaubt Dir immer noch niemand. War übrigens nicht auf einem Foto, sondern in einem Video, das Gaddafi und die leute unmittelbar um ihn herum zeigte. Du bist obendrein bis heute weltweit der einzige Experte, der diese Hose erkannt hat.Zitat:
Zitat von Xarrion
Allerdings bist Du offensichtlich niemand, der merkt, wenn es an der Zeit ist, mal die Klappe zu halten. Wie soll denn irgendwer vergessen, daß Du ein opportunistischer Lügner bist, wenn Du das selbst immer wieder auf den Tisch bringst?
nein aber ich habe den artikel in einer Zeitschrift gelesen,beim Arzt.Wird schwer sein das zu verlinken.Wollte den Artikel rausreißen,waren aber zu viele leute dort.Zitat:
Zitat von Thauris
Es gibt gute Nachrichten aus dem Süden des Landes. Die Ratten haben anscheinend die Angriffe auf die Provinz Fezzan aufgrund des starken Widerstandes und aus Personalmangel eingestellt. Fezzan steht nun vollständig unter grüner Kontrolle.
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Libya-...35809009826863Zitat:
On sight news from Libyan south.
News from Fezzan are news that can make us all glad, the rats seem to have been stopped from reentering fezzan after they abandoned it several weeks ago.
The rat line is too far from the fezzan strongholds now.
We have to thank our fezzan brothers for supporting the cause and for beeing in cohhesion with the commander and leader of the resistance forces.
The things you will not know from the international media are that the south of Libya is green and the flags of the only real goverment are flying high.
We need to add that the reistance forces have declared 2 days ago that will follow Brother seif al islam al Gaddafi to the fight for the total liberation of Libya until no more western crusader collaborator will be left even if this takes long and even if we dont live to see it.
Green Resistance -32 Brigade-Moutasim Brigade-Bu Minyar revolutionary cells-Libyan Liberal Youth.
We will never go down. Victory or Martyrdom.Pride and National Glory.
Wie sieht es in den anderen beiden Provinzen aus? Ich denke mir, das die Ratten nur noch im Osten des Landes eine gewisse Kontrolle über die Gebiete haben. Aus Tobruk zum Beispiel hat man nie etwas gehört.Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Hier gibt es noch ein paar schöne Bilder vom grünen Mörserangriff auf den internationalen Flughafen in Tripolis.
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Tja das kann ich dir leider nicht genau beantworten. In der Provinz Tripolitanien scheint es jedenfalls auch sehr heiß herzugehen.Heftige Kämpfe rund um Tripolis und Bani Walid. Über den Osten des Landes kann ich leider nicht viel sagen aber ich denke mal, dass der Nordosten wohl noch immer unter Rattenkontrolle steht...Zitat:
Zitat von Beobachter
Vor allem direkt an der Grenze zu Ägypten. Bestimmt alles nur Zufall. :OZitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Ich wills mal so sagen. Es gibt Hinweise darauf, dass die katarischen Söldner über Ägypten angeliefert werden. Deswegen ist es auch kein Wunder, das diese Provinz wohl noch unter Rattenkontrolle steht. Laut meinen grünen Quellen soll die Mehrheit der katarischen Söldner übrigens aus Kolumbien stammen. Der Emir von Katar hat wohl mit den Drogenkartellen einige gute Deals gemacht.....Zitat:
Zitat von Beobachter
Der Link führt zu einem Posting über die Gefangennahme von G.Zitat:
Zitat von Buella
Wer die Fäden zog ist genug diskutiert worden. Wichtig ist mMn, ob jetzt (auch) dort Islamisten an die Macht kommen.
Bravo.....wollen wir hoffen das die Nato-Ratten endlich bekommen was sie verdienen für ihre Verbrechen. Nämlich den Tod. Noch schöner wäre es wenn man mal im EU-Quartier in Brüssel wirken würde...die ganzen Abgeordneten haben keinerlei Personenschutz...und die Scheißen sich noch in die Hosen vor Angst. Darauf würde ich Wetten.
Sie sind es schon....die meisten sind direkt von Al-Kaida gestellt, zumindest alle Kommandeure der Nato-Ratten vor Ort. Und den Rest hat die Führung der Ratten ja selbst der Presse gesagt...Gottestaat, Scharia als Grundlage...usw.Zitat:
Zitat von tosh
Super.....das Land ist ein klein wenig besser geworden. Hat es viele Ratten erwischt?Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Ein weiterer Grund, weshalb die NATO Libyen überfallen hat. Quo Vadis hat als erster und einziger den Braten gerochen:
Zitat:
Frankreich und USA wollen Stützpunkt in Libyen bauen
El Kuds (al Manar/IRIB) - Gleichzeitig mit den Antrengungen von Paris, Washington und London um einen Anteil am libyschen Öl ist der Auftrag der USA und Frankreichs bezüglich der Gebietserkundung in Libyen mit dem Ziel der Errichtung eines Luftwaffenstützpunktes abgeschlossen worden.
Dieser Stützpunkt soll als NATO-Stützpunkt errichtet werden, damit Libyen nach dem Südsudan als zweiter Gastgeber eines solchen Stützpunktes in dieser Region in Afrika fungieren kann. Wie al-Menar – Palästina berichtete, finden ausgeweitete geheime Verhandlungen mit westlichen Vermittlern statt um mit den neuen libyschen Verantwortungsträgern und Tel Aviv ein neues Kapitel in der Zusammenarbeit aufzuschlagen.
Israel ist ebenso darum bemüht eine Botschaft in der libyschen Hauptstadt zu eröffnen. Auch haben verschiedene jüdische Gesellschaften in den letzten Tagen bezüglich finanzieller Transakationen in Libyen mit einigen Persönlichkeiten des nationalen Übergangsrates verhandelt und auch über Entschädigungszahlungen an die libyschen Juden Gespräche geführt.
http://german.irib.ir/nachrichten/po...n-libyen-bauen
Ich denke nicht das man den Franzosenratten Levy und Sackkorzy ein Bajonett in den Arsch steckt und Sie von Hunderten Menschen Stundenlang foltern lassen wird. Denn nur diese Strafe ist Gerechtfertigt für die Nato-Kriegstreiber und ihre Handlanger. Und das wäre Spiegelnde Justiz....denn Herr Gaddafi wurde so Bestraft.Zitat:
Zitat von Buella
Ich hatte ihn auch schon Gerochen und Gepostet....andere auch. Die Gründe sind vielfältiger und so schmutzig....das Öl und das Geld sind nur ein Happen vom Büffet :Zitat:
Zitat von Brutus
Mit dem Geldkoffer zurück aus Tripolis
Quelle.
Vielen Dank. Hunde koten und urinieren nun mal permanent in neuen Revieren, so ergeht es leider auch Libyen. Bei einem Stützpunkt wird es auch nicht bleiben.Zitat:
Zitat von Brutus
Nato-General General Bouchard hat jetzt in einem Interview zugegeben, dass die vielen internationalen Presseleute als hauptsächliche Informationsquelle für die Nato gedient haben. Damit wird wohl auch klar, warum die LDF während des gesamten Libyenkrieges keine westlichen Schweinejournalisten mit dabei haben wollte.....
http://libyanfreepress.wordpress.com...e-journalists/Zitat:
General Bouchard acknowledges that NATO’s informants in Libya were journalists
In a 31 October 2011 interview on Radio Canada, Lieutenant-General Charles Bouchard, who led Operation Unified Protector in Libya, revealed that an analysis unit was set up at NATO headquarters in Naples. It’s mission was to study and decipher what was happening on the ground, that is to say both the movements of the Libyan Army and those of the “rebels.”
To fortify the unit, several information networks were created. “The intelligence came from many sources, including the media who were on the ground and provided us with a lot of information regarding the intentions and the location of the ground forces.”
This is the first time a NATO official admits that foreign journalists in Libya were assets of the Atlantic Alliance. Shortly before the fall of Tripoli, Thierry Meyssan caused a stir by affirming that most Western journalists staying at the Hotel Rixos were NATO agents. In particular, he pointed the finger at the teams working for AP, BBC, CNN and Fox News.
Die libysche Armee wurde jetzt von General Saif Al Islam Gaddafi zur NEUEN BEFREIUNGSARMEE LIBYENS umbenannt.
http://libyasos.blogspot.com/p/news.htmlZitat:
20h/ Saif El Islam has now renamed the Libyan Army,the new Liberation Army in Libya
The war in Libya has just begun!
As a reminder, Saif El Islam has renamed the Libyan Army,the new Liberation Army in Libya.
Former members of the Libyan army, patriots, supporters were asked to join this new army to free the country from the clutches of the rebels, NATO and Qatar.
The war has just begun![ Genet Tadesse ]
Ein Herr übrigens, der gar nix dabei fand, daß Krankenschwestern in seinen Gefängnissen einer Elektrofolter der Genitalien ausgesetzt waren. Nach Deiner eigenen Moral ist er also recht billig davongekommen.Zitat:
Zitat von Alfred
"... Former members of the Libyan army, patriots, supporters were asked to join this new army to free the country from the clutches of the rebels, NATO and Qatar.Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
The war has just begun![ Genet Tadesse ]"
Fühlst Du Dich unter "Supporters" nicht auch angesprochen? Und hast Du Hoffnung, daß andere 'Supporters' weniger gute Ausreden haben als Du und es nicht nur bei Parolen belassen?
Ein neuer Telegraph Artikel bestätigt jetzt, dass in Tripolis das reinste Chaos ausgebrochen ist. Grüner Widerstand gegen Rebellen, Rebellen gegen das NTC, Rebellen gegen Rebellen. Viele der Rattenbrigaden die eigentlich versprochen hatten die Stadt nach den Kampfhandlungen zu verlassen sitzen weiterhin in ihren Bezirken und räumen die Häuser der Bewohner leer. Ganz oben auf der Liste sollen Kühlschränke und Fernseher stehen. Entführungen und Folterungen stehen ebenfalls auf der Tagesordnung. Ein ehemaliger Rattenkämpfer hat jetzt schon Bedenken geäußert ob denn nicht genauso ein "Failed State" beginnt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rning-bad.htmlZitat:
Libya dispatch: as lawlessness spreads, are the rebel 'good guys' turning bad?
Once welcomed as liberators, Libya's rebel fighters are beginning to outstay their welcome in Tripoli.
Abdul Mojan's moment of realisation came when the good guys threw him into the boot of their car, slammed it shut and drove off with him a prisoner inside.
When they finally stopped and hauled him out, he asked them: "What are you doing? I'm a revolutionary just like you! I've never supported Gaddafi.'"
But the former rebels didn't care. They had taken a liking to the new office block in western Tripoli that Mr Mojan managed and they wanted the keys and ownership documents. He tried to reason with them, pointing out that there were plenty of government buildings standing empty.
To no avail, however. "We have sacrificed for this revolution and you haven't, and now we will take what we want," he was told by a cocky 18-year-old. "You can have the building back when the revolution is over."
A week later Mr Mojan was still incredulous as he recounted his tale to The Sunday Telegraph, admitting that he felt lucky to escape without a beating although there was nothing he could do about the 5,000 dinar (£2,550) they stole from his car.
Many of Tripoli's residents have had a similar moment of grim awakening in recent weeks. Their liberators, still swaggering around the city in Che Guevara-style berets and armed to the teeth, have not gone back to their home towns as they promised. Nor have they started handing in the guns they used to fight against Gaddafi, as they said they would.
"When they said Libya Free, they meant the cars, the refrigerators and the flat-screen television sets," runs one joke doing the rounds in Tripoli's cafes. Stories of gunmen taking expensive cars at checkpoints, giving receipts saying they will be returned after the revolution, are nervously swapped over cups of tea.
More alarming than the looting have been the armed clashes between militias. There have been three big fights in the capital alone in the past week; shoot-outs at a hospital, Martyr's Square, and the military airport, which have left several dead and dozens wounded.
Then there are the detentions. With the fighting over, the revolutionaries have not been idle. They have kept busy rounding up hundreds of suspected Gaddafi supporters in a wide-scale witch-hunt, often on the basis of little more than rumour and accusation.
One man, a supporter of the revolution who was full of hope a month ago, described how his brother-in-law, Omar, had been grabbed by gunmen from Misurata. They were acting for a wealthy businessman from the city, with whom Omar had a dispute several years ago.
"They came to his house and Omar went with them because he believed in the revolution and thought it was a misunderstanding that would soon be sorted out," the man said.
"But when they arrived in Misurata they threw him in their private prison and said they would beat the soles of his feet until he confessed. It is an old Turkish torture called the falakha. He was really scared, and he managed to escape by persuading one of them who felt uneasy about this to let him go.
"Next day they turned up at his house, and threatened his wife and children. Can you believe this? We have hundreds of little Gaddafis now.
"There is no one to stop them, and they are convinced that because they suffered in the war, they should be able to do what they like now. If it carries on like this I really fear for our revolution."
Libya's problems would not look so dangerous if there was a proper government in place to deal with them. Instead, more than two months since Gaddafi was driven from his capital, there is still a power vacuum. No government has been formed because former rebels cannot agree on how to share out power. The new prime minister, appointed last week, is a professor of electrical engineering originally from Tripoli who spent most of the last three decades at universities in Alabama and North Carolina - and was chosen because he offends nobody.
"There is a deliberate effort to avoid the mistakes of Afghanistan and Iraq and not try to get foreigners in to micromanage everything," said one European Union diplomat last week. "And the Libyans are proud people, they don't want to look like a Third World nation needing a big foreign presence in here."
A handful of enterprising foreign businessmen have arrived looking for opportunities, drawn by the prospect of lucrative reconstruction contracts. "We've come way too early, there is no one to talk to yet," said a frustrated American who spent last week trying to set up meetings with representatives of a Libyan government which does not yet exist. "I will come back in the spring."
Many Libyans remain hopeful about the future of their revolution. Omar Khalifa, of the charity Libya Hurra, was arranging the distribution of sheep and money to 2,500 needy families for the festival of Eid this weekend.
"Of course people have suffered a lot in the past year," he said. "But the Libyans know they have to be patient, and that it will take a while to get back to normal."
Getting the militias out of the capital would help, but the leader of one notorious brigade told The Sunday Telegraph his men will stay for the time being.
"We are here to help build democracy and protect the revolution", said Mohammed al-Madhni, a commander in his fifties with a roguish grin which gave him an unfortunate resemblance to Tony Soprano.
His men, from the impoverished town of Zintan in the mountains south of Tripoli, were some of the most ferocious anti-Gaddafi fighters, but since the end of the war they have acquired a less savoury reputation for looting and starting fights.
The most colourful story told about them, not denied by Commander Madhni, is that Zintanis stole an elephant from Tripoli zoo as a trophy of war, taking the unfortunate beast back to their town in a truck.
They have taken up residence in the suburb of Regatta, a delightful district of palm trees and neat bungalows facing on to the blue Mediterranean. It was home to British and American oil workers and their families until they fled in February, as the revolution broke out.
Now the suburb has an eerie, deserted feeling. Doors and windows have been smashed so looters can get in, and the militias have spray-painted graffiti over walls. Only a few luxury cars are left, the ones with complicated security codes that make them difficult to steal and drive away. Several of those have had their wheels stolen.
"You could see them driving round in their pick-up trucks with big machine-guns going round the bungalows, picking up freezers and flat-screen televisions," said one of the witnesses to the Zintan fighters' looting spree.
People in Tripoli try to laugh about the mountain men – they are particularly amused that the Zintanis took jet-skis and fast boats back to their homes deep in the desert.
But there is also a fear that now the gunmen have a taste for power, and nobody to stop them, the post-Gaddafi future may be much more difficult than Libyans had hoped.
One formerly enthusiastic revolutionary, watching a group of young gunmen at a checkpoint, couldn't help being gloomy.
"You have to wonder, is this how failed states start out?" he said.
Ein kleines Update vom grünen Widerstand aus Tripolis:
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Tripolis: During last nights there were heavy fights in several places before rats protested against ntc then fightings.
Tripolis last night was a explosion near airport and fightings also near green square 22rats badly injured
I cannot confirm how many rats has been killed they buried them during the night.
Zawya around 3am the rats went back home. They said NTC will pay with blood not only cash. They are blamed,they want vendetta
Interessant. Das sind genau die Orte, von denen auch der Telegraph-Artikel Kämpfe berichtete - allerdings unter Rebellengruppen. Möglich, dass Sabotageaktionen der Loyalisten die Kämpfe ausgelöst haben. Wie dämlich die Rebellen sind, zeigt ja auch folgender Absatz:Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Zitat:
People in Tripoli try to laugh about the mountain men – they are particularly amused that the Zintanis took jet-skis and fast boats back to their homes deep in the desert.
Wenn es gelingt die Ratten aus Tripolis zu werfen und das NTC Oberkommando zu töten, braucht man nur noch nach Misrata, um die Stadt wieder einzukesseln. Bengasi sollte man tunlichst liegenlassen, nur bis Brega vorrücken und eine Spaltung des Landes anstreben in 85% Grün und 15% Chaoskalifatstaat Bengasi, der sich Ägypten anschließen kann.Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Auch der "Australian" berichtet jetzt ähnliches:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226186182145Zitat:
SITTING in their home on the outskirts of Tripoli, a Libyan family is afraid. Their fear is that a knock on the door could come from the rebel militias that toppled Muammar Gaddafi.
This situation is extraordinary. Only weeks ago, these people were enthusiastic supporters of the uprising against the Gaddafi regime. One of the members of the family sitting in the living room was a rebel fighter. He spent two days in a gunfight in Tripoli battling the bodyguards of Gaddafi's son Mutassim, and still keeps a Kalashnikov in the boot of his car.
Apart from having mobile phone footage of the gun battle, he has registration showing his membership of a rebel katiba, or brigade. But now he and his family are frightened. And he is angry at the triumphant rebels' growing reliance on vigilante justice.
The rebel fighters came to this house a few days before and took away one of the family. It's not as if they were seeking revenge for the man being a Gaddafi supporter; it appears this is a dispute over money that has been running for some time.
But one of the parties has decided that rather than go through the courts, a quicker way to get the dispute resolved is to get the rebel fighters to pay a visit to the family. They took away the man, who later escaped from their capture. Enraged, the rebels returned to the family home, and when they could not find the man took away another member of the family, saying they would hold him hostage until the man they were after gave himself up. They even threatened to take away the children.
Gaddafi is barely in his grave and the ruling rebels are already acting in a way reminiscent of some of Gaddafi's henchmen during his 42 years as dictator. "Mafia," says the member of the family who fought as a rebel, describing the behaviour of the militias. "This is just like the mafia in Colombia or Russia," he says. "Gaddafi was horrible, but I never knew of him capturing the relative of somebody if they could not find the person they wanted. They would have just kept looking. And I never heard of them threatening to take children."
He adds a comment that may help explain Libya's problem of victorious rebels, in power without accountability. "After 42 years of Gaddafi mentality, there's a little Gaddafi in all Libyans," he says. "We have to make sure it doesn't grow."
This family is so afraid they have asked that their names not be used. The man who escaped from the rebels has returned home but fears they will return. He says he knows of one case where a man was taken away on suspicion he had been a Gaddafi supporter and was then beaten to death. The rebels telephoned his parents the next day to say the man had become ill in custody and died.
The wife of the man begins crying as I leave. The children come to the front door and one of them makes the gesture of cocking a gun. She says this is what one of the rebels did the night they turned up at the house.
This situation, which is being replicated across Libya, reflects the most pressing problem for the country after Gaddafi.The rebels who came to the house were from the Misratah brigades - fighters from the 100 Misratah katiba (battalion) who for eight months were caught in the middle of the civil war.
Misratah became the front line, located on the border between the east of the country, which the rebels controlled, and the west, which Gaddafi ruled. The bloodiest fighting was in Misratah, which suffered more casualties than any other town.
Early in the war, in March, the Gaddafi forces took control of Misratah, until then a rebel stronghold. The local rebels fought an extraordinary and brutal counter-offensive to recapture the town. Gaddafi sent in his most feared unit - the 32nd brigade, or Khamis unit, run by his son, Khamis - which took Misratah back. The rebels then pulled off another feat by forcing out the Gaddafi forces.
The Misratah brigades became something of a legend; among the rebels they developed a reputation as the toughest and most brutal fighters. It must have become clear to the National Transitional Council, the rebels' ruling political organisation, that the Misratah brigades were a problem before Gaddafi was killed in the town of Bani Walid.
The NTC announced a one-week ceasefire to allow the civilians in Bani Walid to leave. This decision was taken under international pressure, particularly from Britain and France. It allowed hundreds of civilians to leave who would otherwise have been killed. But the Misratah fighters were upset by this. They wanted to go in immediately but reluctantly agreed to hold off.
Drive through Misratah today and you will see the results of the past eight months of fighting. Building after building has holes blown in it. Some are large cavities from mortar shells and others smaller bullet holes. It is a scarred town with a scarred population.
But while the brigades created awe during the war, they now cause fear. One Libyan university student observes: "The Misratah rebels probably need five years of therapy. They need a lot of help."
At present, however, revenge clearly prevails over rehabilitation. There is a growing list of human rights abuses by the Misratah brigades.
The most obvious was the apparent lynching of Gaddafi, who had the misfortune to be captured by the Misratah fighters. Many of the rebels, and the NTC leadership, would have preferred Gaddafi to have been put on trial. That way they could have tried to get him to reveal where he had salted away billions of dollars of the country's oil revenues.
The latest atrocity linked to the rebels is the discovery of 53 bodies of Gaddafi fighters on the lawns of a hotel in Sirte, Gaddafi's home town and the place where he was captured. The bodies were found with their hands tied and gunshots to the head.
The symmetry of a civil war that leads to a change of regime is shown by the fact Human Rights Watch has gone from documenting massacres by the pro-Gaddafi forces to those by the anti-Gaddafi forces.
HRW was told by medical staff in Sirte that between October 15 and October 20, 23 bodies were found with their hands tied in an apparent massacre by pro-Gaddafi forces. Only days later the 53 people massacred by the rebel forces were found.
According to HRW's emergencies director Peter Bouckaert: "This latest massacre seems part of a trend of killings, looting and other abuses committed by armed anti-Gaddafi fighters who consider themselves above the law. It is imperative the transitional authorities take action to rein in these groups."
HRW has documented rebels from the Misratah brigades terrorising residents of Tawergha, a town of about 30,000 people, mainly immigrant workers from central Africa. While some of these workers fought with the Gaddafi forces, it appears any former resident of the town - they have now fled across the country - is liable to be tortured, beaten and killed.
HRW investigators have documented that 1300 former Tawergha residents have been seized and some have been shot, even though unarmed. They have had their homes looted or burned, been tortured with electric shocks and severely abused.
In one case the rebels beat to death a mentally ill man because he would not - or could not - give them the password of a walkie-talkie he was carrying. In another case, an African man was whipped as he was forced to run around a courtyard, then told to climb a pole while shouting, "Monkey needs a banana".
Those not arrested found they were not allowed to withdraw their money from the banks. One pregnant woman who went for a check-up was told at the government-run hospital: "We don't treat Tawerghans here."
HRW's Sarah Leah Whitson says in a statement: "Revenge against people from Tawergha, whatever the accusations against them, undermines the goal of the Libyan revolution."
At first vigilante justice was dealt out just to the Tawerghans. Now it is spreading, with rebels fanning out across the country as a law unto themselves. And there are no signs of the situation being brought under control.
Ich finde es erstaunlich wie ruhig es um Libyen in den bundesdeutschen Medien geworde ist! Warum nur? ;)Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner