Was ist los in Libyen? Ursachen, Wirkung und Entwicklung / Sammelstrang

[Alfred]

Das ist der Ausdruck des offenen Aggressionskrieges der NATO unter den Deckmantel der UNO. Damit hat sich die BRD, ein NATO-Mitglied, offen als Aggressor bloßgestellt, Aggressoren die Morden und töten um die Interessen des Kapitals, allen voran der der USA und der BRD durchzusetzen. Die Lüge es geht um den Schutz der Zivilbevölkerung glauben doch bloß die Kapitalismus-Affen und da auch noch nicht mal alle.

Schon seit dem Serbienfeldzug der Kriegshetzer Fischer und Schröder war das doch klar zu erkennen.

[Marx]

Schon seit dem Serbienfeldzug der Kriegshetzer Fischer und Schröder war das doch klar zu erkennen.

Da waren die Aggressionen schon mittendrin, aber ab da kann man sagen die offene deutsche Aggression, Was Adolf mit seinen Gehilfen nicht gegönnt war, das machen die heutigen Vertreter der imperalistischen chauvinistischen deutschen Politik.

[Don]

Da waren die Aggressionen schon mittendrin, aber ab da kann man sagen die offene deutsche Aggression, Was Adolf mit seinen Gehilfen nicht gegönnt war, das machen die heutigen Vertreter der imperalistischen chauvinistischen deutschen Politik.

Nunja, wir wollen doch nicht übersehen daß der gute alte Adi da ein bißchen mehr firepower reinpackte und wesentlich erfolgreicher war, zumindest bis gewisse Umstände das zunichtemachten.

[Marx]

"Schwerter zu Pflugscharen"

Das ist der dümmste und Erfolgreichste aggressive Spruch.

[Steiner]

Al Quaida steht wohl kurz davor, die Rebellen vollkommen zu übernehmen, d.H. die möglichen sekulären Elemente werden wohl bald verschwunden sein. Das geht wohl aus einigen radikal-islamischen Foren hervor. Neue Beweise von einer australischen Tageszeitung:

Libya ripe for jihad's rallying cries

AS the military and humanitarian quagmire in Libya deepens, a clarion call has gone out to followers of the global jihadist movement in the West.

"Who wants to join the mujahidin? The gates of jihad are open in Libya!" declares a message posted on a pro al-Qa'ida internet forum monitored by Western analysts.

The message - and countless others like it - has set off alarms in counter-terrorism circles in the West, as al-Qa'ida and its allies move to exploit the foment in the Arab world, seizing on the conflict in Libya as a new cause celebre for Islamic militants. And as yesterday's WikiLeaks release shows, al-Qa'ida suspects freed from Guantanamo Bay are at work in Libya.

A report from the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation says internet jihadists are portraying Libya as the newest front in the global jihad against the West, in a policy dictated by al-Qa'ida's top leaders.

"Senior leadership figures, including Ayman al-Zawahiri, have given a number of sermons concentrating almost solely on Libya and portraying it as the most fertile ground for their global movement," says the report's author, Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens, a research fellow at ICSR. He says Zawahiri's call has been echoed on English-language jihadist forums.

"The Western Salafi-jihadi movement is attempting to take ownership of the rebellion on behalf of the global jihad, and is portraying anti-Gaddafi forces as mujahidin, while also encouraging Western Muslims to do all they can to reach the country and take part in a supposed jihad."

The ICSR has monitored a stream of communications on al-Qa'ida run and backed websites and forums since the Arab spring began. A typical post says: "My brothers and sisters, we are facing a global change, Alhamdulillah [praise God]! We will see this uprising continuing in all Muslim countries and soon we will see the banner of Allah everywhere!"

The forums are full of news of the exploits of jihadist fighters who have joined "Islamic battalions" in Libya under names such as the Thunderbolt Battalion and the Islamic Army of Benghazi, and so-called exclusive pictures of fighters purporting to be mujahidin on the front lines, accompanied by messages urging new recruits to join them. They provide directions on how best to travel to Libya, along with this incentive: "The market of paradise has opened and the hoor al ayn [virgins promised to martyrs] are waiting."

The forums are used to disseminate stories such as one that recounted how a band of mujahidin overran a Libyan army base in al-Bayda in the northeast of the country.

Western analysts believe the claims are exaggerated and some are simply echoes of Gaddafi regime propaganda aimed at discrediting the rebellion by portraying it as an Islamist uprising.

However, among al-Qa'ida's online followers it seems they are having the desired effect. Another post says: "The only thing we can do at this moment is pray for the brothers and await the official declaration of an Islamic emirate in Libya."

The ICSR's assessment is that it is essentially a propaganda push by al-Qa'ida and its allies to promote Libya as a "new Afghanistan", that is a new rallying point to revitalise their movement.

Al-Qa'ida has been cultivating its contacts in Libya for decades. Its key ally there is the old Libyan Islamic Fighting Group which was formed in 1995 to overthrow President Muammar Gaddafi and contribute to the international jihadist campaign. Despite Gaddafi's long-term support for international terrorism, he is regarded by Islamic militants as an apostate ruler who has betrayed his promise to make Libya an Islamic republic.

US terrorism analyst Bill Roggio from the Long War Journal says north and eastern Africa have proven fertile ground for al-Qa'ida with their restive Muslim populations, oppressive governments and lawless regions that make ideal sites for terrorist training camps.

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group was set up by Libyans who had fought against the Soviet army in Afghanistan in the 1980s, several of whom went on to take up key positions in the al-Qa'ida command structure. Many of the group's founding members trained in al-Qa'ida camps in Afghanistan, according to a report by the US Council on Foreign Relations.

Al-Qa'ida's leader in Afghanistan until his death in 2008, Abu Laith al-Libi, was a Libyan, as is the senior field commander regarded by some US intelligence analysts as Osama bin Laden's heir apparent, Abu Yahya al-Libi.

Yesterday' s WikiLeaks documents show that at least one former detainee who was set free, Abu Sufian Ibrahim Ahmed Hamuda bin Qumu, is training with rebel forces in Libya and has close ties to al-Qa'ida.

In 2006 the LIFG merged with militant groups from neighbouring Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco to form a new al-Qa'ida franchise, which called itself al-Qa'ida in the Islamic Mahgreb.

The merger was heralded by Abu Laith al-Libi, who said: "We announce we are joining al-Qa'ida's loyal soldiers. The tyrant of Libya is pushing the country into a new quagmire. He suddenly discovered that America, the guardian of the cross, is not an enemy."

The merger and AQIM's vow to topple Gaddafi were apparently prompted by the dictator's rapprochement with the US in 2003, when Gaddafi announced that Libya would end its biological, chemical and nuclear weapons program, which had long been used to support international terrorism, and the US dropped sanctions and restored diplomatic relations in return.

The Libyans were officially welcomed into the fold by al-Qa'ida deputy head Zawahiri, who condemned Gaddafi for surrendering his "weapons and equipment to Crusader masters", and called for the overthrow of the governments of Libya, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco.

AQIM's leader Abdelmalek Droukdal told The New York Times in a 2008 interview: "Our general goals are the same goals of al-Qa'ida the mother."

AQIM has been most active in Algeria where its forerunner, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat, led a bloody insurrection that began in 1992 after the military regime cancelled parliamentary elections when it seemed a coalition of Islamic parties was on the verge of winning.

Since the name change, AQIM has carried out guerilla-style ambushes against military personnel and truck bombs against government targets, kidnapped tourists for ransom, bombed buses and embraced suicide attacks.

Experts believe these actions suggest widening ambitions within the group's leadership, which is now pursuing a more global, sophisticated and better-financed direction, says a recent report by the US Council on Foreign Relations. It notes that AQIM used the Iraq War and other unpopular Western policies to recruit new members.

A worldwide caution issued by the US State Department in January says AQIM has declared its intention to attack Western targets and has claimed responsibility for the kidnappings and murder of several Westerners.

Among the posts detected recently on the jihadist forums is one from a regular participant who claims to have contacts with al-Qa'ida, asserting that AQIM is "preparing to begin operations in Libya".

The commentator claims that between 4000 and 7000 Islamic militants have assembled in the city of Benghazi.

"The Salafi brothers in Benghazi have declared the Islamic emirate of Libya. The brothers have captured military tanks, Hummers, heavy-medium-light machine guns," the commentator reports.

Jihadist ideologues whose posts have been monitored praise the purity of the uprising in Libya compared with other manifestations of the Arab spring, such as in Egypt, which they deride for being secular and pro-democracy.

One post notes "the great thing about this revolution is that the people are only raising the banner of truth and shouting takbeer

[God is great], and nobody shouts the name of a secular-democratic party".

There is intense debate on the forums over the provision of Western military assistance to the Libyan rebel movement, which has prompted consternation about an alliance with the so-called enemies of Islam.

A participant on one forum commented: "I really need some clarification on the current situation in Libya. We see images from kufr [non-Muslim] news sources that the Libyans are requesting help from the kufr against Gaddafi. Could someone please confirm that the mujahidin in Libya are on the straight path."

Forum leaders have reassured participants on this score, essentially arguing the end - achieving an Islamic state - will justify the means. They liken the situation in Libya to that in Afghanistan in the 1990s, when a range of alliances was forged between rival factions in order to oust the Soviet army, before the Taliban eventually took power. "[In Afghanistan] we had Sunnis, nationalists, Ikhwanis [Muslim Brotherhood], Sufi, Shi'ites and other groups fighting shoulder to shoulder against the Russians.

"What happened after the war? We witnessed a civil war between the groups. The Taliban succeeded in taking 90 per cent of Afghanistan. They declared the Islamic emirate and implemented the Sharia. I think that the same thing will happen in Libya."

The mainstream Libyan rebel movement has been eager to distance itself from the Islamists who are trying to muscle in on their rebellion. On March 30, the Libyan Interim Transitional National Council issued a statement intended to allay Western fears about an Islamist takeover, stressing its "commitment to the implementation of the relevant Security Council resolutions on counter-terrorism [and] sanctions concerning al-Qa'ida and the Taliban".

The ICSR believes the jihadists' propaganda is more wishful thinking than reality. "Their claims are unconvincing and there are notable discrepancies between their interpretation of events and the facts on the ground," Meleagrou-Hitchens reports.

He says despite the rallying cries, there is little concrete evidence of a strong al-Qa'ida presence or serious Islamist activity among the rebels, and their Transitional National Council is "clearly not an al-Qa'ida aligned movement".

However, Western analysts are keeping a close eye on the evolution of the Libyan rebellion, noting that senior online militants are urging a cautious, patient, long-term approach rather than a quick revolution.

The conventional wisdom on the Islamist forums, according to ICSR, is that "there is enough of a Salafi-jihadi presence to ensure that once Gaddafi is overthrown, Libya will begin to move toward transforming into an Islamic state governed by Sharia".

One forum leader warns that declaring an Islamic emirate in Libya would prompt a Western invasion, and stresses instead that they should build up their military forces, "educate the people" on the need for an Islamic state, "and then declare the emirate, with weapons, economy and a people ready to fight for Allah."

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[Alfred]

Da waren die Aggressionen schon mittendrin, aber ab da kann man sagen die offene deutsche Aggression, Was Adolf mit seinen Gehilfen nicht gegönnt war, das machen die heutigen Vertreter der imperalistischen chauvinistischen deutschen Politik.

Sehr gut...nun noch die Plutokraten hinein und es passt genau.

[Penthesilea]

NATO bombardiert Gaddafis Residenz in Tripolis

.....Wie ein AFP-Korrespondent berichtete, wurden das Bürogebäude in der weitläufigen Residenz in Tripolis durch den nächtlichen NATO-Beschuss komplett und ein angrenzender Konferenzsaal teilweise zerstört. Nach Angaben eines Vertreters der libyschen Staatsführung wurden bei den Angriffen 45 Menschen verletzt, 15 von ihnen schwer. Dies sei ein Versuch gewesen, Gaddafi zu töten, sagte er....
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Für solche Bombardements gibt es keine Rechtfertigung durch die UNO-Resulotion, das ist übelste Wild-West-Lynchjusiz!

Ja, Gaddafi wird schon bereut haben, daß er auf Atomwaffen verzichtete.
Andere Staaten werden daraus lernen – hoffentlich.

[C-Dur]

Überrascht mich nicht, denn Kissinger ist auch so ein "Friedensnobelpreisträger" wie der Präsident Obomba.

Genau!

Die Anklagen gegen Henry Kissinger sind Massenmord, Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit und Kriegsverbrechen in folgenden Ländern:


VIETNAM

Kissinger verzögerte Friedensgespräche, ebnete den Weg für Nixons Wahlsiege. Die Hälfte aller Opfer auf dem Schlachtfeld im Vietnam-Krieg starben genau in diesen (Wahlkampf-)Jahren 1968 und 1972, nicht zu vergessen die Millionen zivilen Opfer in Indochina.


CAMBODIA

Kissinger überredete Nixon, den Krieg mit massiven Bombardements auf Kambodscha und Laos auszuweiten -- Länder mit pro-kommunistischen Regierungen, die sich aber neutral zum Vietnam-Krieg verhielten. Es war die alleinige Idee Kissingers, den Krieg mit „mehr Würde“ zu verlieren. Niemand von der Regierung, bis auf Nixon, hatte von den umstrittenen Vorbereitungen erfahren. Nach konservativen Schätzungen töteten die USA 600,000 Zivilisten in Kambodscha und 350,000 in Laos.



BANGLADESH

Mit von den USA gelieferten Waffen stürzte General Yahya Khan die demokratisch gewählte Regierung und ermordete 1971 500.000 Zivilisten. Das Weiße Haus, der Sicherheitsrat der USA, wollten diese Aktionen verurteilen. Kissinger lehnte es ab, zu vermitteln. Danach dankte Kissinger Khan für diesen „delikaten Akt“.



CHILE

Kissinger unterstützte den Plan, 1973 den demokratisch gewählten Präsidenten Allende zu stürzen und General René Schneider zu ermorden, der die USA nicht unterstützen wollte sein Militär gegen einen demokratisch gewählten Präsidenten einzusetzen. Nach dem Mord konnte der konservative General Augusto Pinochet das Militär übernehmen. Moderate Militärs flohen, um ihr Leben zu retten. Die CIA bezahlte Agenten, die Allendes Regierungsmitglieder verfolgten und ermordeten. Zu den Mordtaten gehörten auch die Autobombe für Allendes Außenminister,

Orlando Letelier, und Allendes Berater, Ronni Moffitt, der in den USA lebte, am Sheridan Circle im Stadtzentrum Washington DC.
Der Oberbefehlshaber der chilenischen Armee stand loyal zur Links-Regierung. Seine Ermordung sollte den Sturz des gewählten Präsidenten, Salvador Allende, einleiten. Die Familie des ermordeten Generals ist von Kissingers Schuld überzeugt und prüft eine Klage gegen ihn. Oberst Wimert, seinerzeit US-Militärattaché in Santiago und Überbringer des "Blutgeldes" für die Mörder sagt dem WDR heute über Kissinger: "Er ist ein Lügner."


EAST TIMOR

1975 traf sich President Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger mit Indonesiens korruptem Präsidenten Suharto. Kissinger erzählte Reportern, dass die USA das kleine Land East Timor, das gerade Unabhängigkeit von Portugal bekam, nicht beachten würden. Wenige Stunden nach dem Interview begann Suharto seine Invasion und tötete mehr als 200,000 Zivilisten. Noch Präsident Clinton sprach von Suharto mit Respekt „ …das ist wie einer von unseren Jungen…“ Erst als Australien auf das furchtbare Massaker aufmerksam machte, intervenierten die Vereinten Nationen mit Militär.

Lybien kommt jetzt noch hinzu! Wieviele Tote wird das wieder bringen?

ABER die Amis sind ja immun gegen Den Haag!

"US-Bürger und Alliierte sollen auch mit Gewalt vor dem Zugriff des Internationalen Gerichtshofs geschützt werden. Nach dem Gesetz wäre es dem US-Präsidenten möglich, amerikanische Angeklagte vor dem Internationalen Gerichtshof, der in Den Haag eingerichtet ist, auch mit militärischer Gewalt zu "befreien".

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[Nanu]

Ja, Gaddafi wird schon bereut haben, daß er auf Atomwaffen verzichtete.
Andere Staaten werden daraus lernen – hoffentlich.

USrael bereitet in Syrien schon die nachste Befreiung vor. Danach kommt es zum Befreiungs-Showdown mit dem IRAN, der bis dahin vielleicht die A-Bombe hat und sie anzuwenden weiss......

[Felix Krull]

Kissinger ist ein typischer Jude.