Krisenherd Ukraine (Dez. 2013 - Mai 2023)

[Soraya]

Du solltest Dich bei Diskussionen mit Dajan nicht entschuldigen oder irgendetwas relativieren...darauf wartet er nur..

Ich finde diese Art zu "diskutieren" mit irgendwelchen Unterstellungen unerträglich. Man kann sich doch auf das Geschriebene konzentrieren oder nicht?

[Soraya]

Das ist sinnfrei.

ich könnte jetzt auch fragen, was Deine Lieblingsfarbe wäre ...

Gut, dass Du es einsiehst.

Ja, könntest Du.

[Soraya]

Was ist das denn , hat der Mützenich sich ins Höschen geschietert ?

[Dajan]

Mützenich , seit 2019 SPD Vorsitzender !

Falsch

Parteivorsitzende sind Eskens und Klingbeil

Mützenich ist Vorsitzender der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion

[Anhalter]

Mützenich , seit 2019 SPD Vorsitzender !

Nein ! Er ist Vorsitzender der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion !

[Chinon]

Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut: ‘Our troops are not being protected’

Russia’s relentless assault on Bakhmut is sacrificing waves and waves of unprepared men being sent to their deaths.

But multiple defenders of this embattled city in Donetsk Oblast feel that they are in a similar boat, according to interviews with more than a dozen soldiers currently fighting in or around Bakhmut.

During their brief visits to the nearby town of Kostiantynivka, Ukrainian infantrymen told the Kyiv Independent of unprepared, poorly-trained battalions being thrown into the front line meat grinder to survive as best they could with little support from armored vehicles, mortars, artillery, drones and tactical information.

“We don’t get any support,” says a soldier named Serhiy, who has been fighting on the front lines in Bakhmut, sitting down with his friend, also named Serhiy, for a conversation in a small cafe in the Kostiantynivka market. Both men are in their 40s but one of them is a bit older than the other.

All soldiers in this article have been identified only by first name or callsign because they spoke to a publication without authorization by a press officer.

They say that Russian artillery, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers are often allowed to strike Ukrainian positions for hours or days without being shut down by Ukrainian heavy weapons. Some complained of poor coordination and situational awareness, allowing this to happen or making it even worse.

Mortarmen spoke of extreme ammunition scarcity and having to use weapons dating back to World War II. Drones that are supposed to provide critical reconnaissance information are also scarce and are being lost at very high rates in some parts of the battlefield.

All this leads to terrifying casualties of both dead and wounded. "The battalion came in in the middle of December… between all the different platoons, there were 500 of us," says Borys, a combat medic from Odesa Oblast fighting around Bakhmut. "A month ago, there were literally 150 of us."

“When you go out to the position, it’s not even a 50/50 chance that you’ll come out of there (alive),” says the older Serhiy. “It’s more like 30/70.”

The Office of the President of Ukraine has [Links nur für registrierte Nutzer] that Russia may have lost tens of thousands of men during the Battle of Bakhmut as of mid-January. Fighting has since only intensified, with Ukraine repeatedly claiming close to a thousand Russians dead in its daily updates. As Bakhmut is seeing the heaviest fighting, most of these casualties are likely in that area. Authorities haven’t revealed any information on Ukrainian losses in the Battle of Bakhmut.
Based on the soldiers’ testimonies, Ukrainian losses appear to be high as well.

Worse by the day

Bakhmut has been the site of very heavy fighting for months, but in the past few weeks, Russian attacks have intensified to an insane degree according to most interviewees.

Multiple soldiers say that they are under massive assault from both Wagner Group mercenaries and regular Russian forces.
“There’s [Links nur für registrierte Nutzer] and there’s two brigades of airborne assault,” says Oleksandr, an infantryman from Sumy, who is part of a Ukrainian assault battalion in Bakhmut. “It’s rough. Constant waves, nonstop.”

Some have characterized the Russian attacks as huge waves of cannon fodder, while others say that the invaders’ tactics have evolved to keep up with the battlefield.

The older Serhiy says that the enemy likes to send a team of three or four expendable foot soldiers to attack and make the Ukrainians expose themselves by shooting at them. At that point, the more elite forces zero in on the defenders’ position.

Once they begin exchanging fire, the Ukrainians are struck with heavier weapons like Russian mortars and rockets from Grad multiple launch rocket systems or BMP infantry fighting vehicles and BTR armored personnel carriers with machine guns.
“They get the positions where we are, establish the coordinates, then they hit us from seven to nine kilometers out with mortars,” as well as from closer by with grenade launchers, says the older Serhiy. “They wait for the house to fall so we have to jump out. The building catches fire and then they try to finish us off.”

“Their birds come out and they chase us with fire,” adds the younger Serhiy, referring to Russian UAVs, like quadcopters and Orlan-10 fixed wing drones that spot distant heavy weapons. “They hit accurately.”

As Russians destroy more and more buildings, Ukrainians keep losing more places where they can reliably take cover. Borys the medic says people have been lost when their entrenched positions collapsed from heavy Russian fire, suffocating them.
“I’ll put it like this, we should get our people out because if we don’t take off, then in the next few weeks, it’s going to be bad,” says Oleksandr. A mortarman named Illia agrees that Bakhmut is “practically encircled.”

On March 3, a key bridge connecting Bakhmut with the village of Khromove on its edge was destroyed. This was a vital artery for evacuating civilians and transporting supplies from the town of Chasiv Yar. CNN reported and soldiers confirmed that the bridge was destroyed by a Russian attack.

The Institute for the Study of War on March 3 said that it appeared that Ukrainian forces were preparing the battlefield for an orderly withdrawal from Bakhmut, but followed up with a March 4 [Links nur für registrierte Nutzer] that Russian forces are unlikely to surround the city soon.

Military leadership [Links nur für registrierte Nutzer] that Ukrainian forces are pulling out and [Links nur für registrierte Nutzer] that Ukrainian forces will only withdraw from the city if they have to.

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[BrüggeGent]

Ich finde diese Art zu "diskutieren" mit irgendwelchen Unterstellungen unerträglich. Man kann sich doch auf das Geschriebene konzentrieren oder nicht?

Aber das will Dajan doch gar nicht...
In seinem Profil gibt er die FAZ als bevorzugte Lektüre an...dabei liegt ihm die Springerpresse mit BILD und vor allem WELT viel mehr...

[Rabauke076]

Nein ! Er ist Vorsitzender der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion !

Ich habe es bemerkt , danke !

[BrüggeGent]

Nein ! Er ist Vorsitzender der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion !

Wer hat mehr Macht in der SPD !? Die Partei oder doch eher die Fraktionen in Bundestag und Landtagen !?

[Dajan]

Aber das will Dajan doch gar nicht...
In seinem Profil gibt er die FAZ als bevorzugte Lektüre an...dabei liegt ihm die Springerpresse mit BILD und vor allem WELT viel mehr...

Wenn Du kurz erläutern könntest, was die FAZ mit Springer zu tun haben soll? Oder ist "Springer" für Dich ein Synonym für alle Medien außerhalb des direkten Einflussbereichs Russlands?