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Und genau daher hat der Westen überhaupt kein Interesse, daß dieser Mann irgendwo, auch nicht vor einem internationalen Kasperl-Gericht, angehört wird.Zitat:
Zitat von Bettmaen
Daher bastelt man eine Schein-Affäre, welche bewirkt, daß er in Libyen bleibt und irgendwann sang- und klanglos verschwindet!
Wo bleibt der "Aufschrei" der "Weltgemeinschaft" ??Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Nicht einmal die Systemmedien können verschweigen, was für Barbaren und Dreckssäcke iher Lieblinge, die Rebellen sind.
Zitat:
Ein neues Gesetz verbietet die Kritik an den Rebellen
So sieht eine Regulierung für die kommenden Wahlen am 7. Juli vor, dass Libyer, die im Gaddafi-Regime höhere Positionen in der Verwaltung inne hatten oder "bekannt dafür waren, das vorige Regime glorifiziert oder gegen die Revolution vom 17. Februar gestanden zu haben", von einer Kandidatur ausgeschlossen werden.
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Damit nicht genug, wurde im Mai per Gesetz ein Verbot erlassen, die "Revolution vom 17. Februar" zu kritisieren. Wer dies tut, mache sich der feindlichen Propaganda strafbar und kann sogar ins Gefängnis kommen. Menschenrechtler befürchten, dass mit solch vagen Gesetzen gezielt kritische Stimmen ausgeschaltet werden könnten.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...-a-838193.htmlZitat:
Auch hat der Übergangsrat im Mai entschieden, dass Verbrechen, die während der Aufstände von Rebellen begangen wurden, nicht verfolgt werden können. Im vorigen Jahr kam es immer wieder zu Berichten von grausamen Racheakten von Aufständischen an Gaddafi-Sympathisanten. Diese fallen nun unter die allgemeine Amnestie für Rebellen.
Da haben sich die Menschenrechtsbombardements ja gelohnt, Herr Lévy. Natürlich ist niemand so naiv, zu glauben, dass es jemals um Menschenrechte gegangen wäre, zumindest nicht in diesem Forum. Libyen war bloß ein weiterer Meilenstein auf dem Weg zur Weltherrschaft.
Die gewaltigen Infrastruktprojekt, die unter Gaddafi geplant waren, werden sicher bald auch umgesetzt, aber unter westlichem Kommando und unter Einbeziehung der üblichen Verdächtigen in der City of London und Wall Street. Lang lebe der Dollar!
Das Chaos ist wichtig für Geschäftemacher und Heuschrecken, dass jetzt viele westliche Firmen und sonstige Oligarchen dort antanzen und den NTC bischen Bauchpinseln, bzw. schmieren vermelden die msm natürlich nicht mehr. Das läuft wie immer "diskret" ab.Zitat:
Zitat von Bettmaen
Bei Kämpfen zwischen Ratten aus Zintan und Milizen aus Mashashia sind mindestens 14 Menschen getötet worden. Die Kämpfe sollen bis zur Stunde andauern
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85C16120120613Zitat:
(Reuters) - Rival Libyan militias armed with heavy weapons clashed for the third straight day on Wednesday in fighting that has killed 14 people, underscoring the country's volatility months after Muammar Gaddafi's overthrow.
The clashes southwest of the capital pitted fighters from the town of Zintan, who played a big role in ousting Gaddafi, against members of the El-Mashashia tribe, who chose not to join the rebellion, security officials said.
Resentment between the two groups spilled over into fighting in December last year, when at least four people were killed, and erupted again this week when a Zintan fighter was shot dead.
Zintan's militias blamed the El-Mashashia tribe and retaliated, leading to the current flareup that started on Monday, several members of the tribe said.
Government spokesman Nasser El-Manee said 14 people had been killed in the fighting and 89 injured. He said there was a national army force in area to try to restore calm.
Von den Gaddafi-Anhängern hört man wenig. Sie scheinen sang- und klanglos untergegangen zu sein. Oder sind die Milizen aus Mashashia Anhänger Gaddafis?
Die Pro-Gaddafi Libyer scheint es durchaus noch zu geben. Siehe z.B. die folgende Doku aus Sirte. Die Bewohner dort halten auch heute noch zu 90% zu Gaddaffi. Das Problem ist nur, dass die gegnerische Seite die Waffen hat....Zitat:
Zitat von Bettmaen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBcynarS2U
Auch in Tripolis gibt es noch Loyalisten:
Zitat:
An angry driver in #Tripoli : " #gaddafi Miya Miya" a #libyan term meaning "very good" #Libya
https://twitter.com/#!/JomanaCNNZitat:
Cab driver went on to say under #gaddafi there was security, but now weapons are everywhere and no one in safe #Libya
Laut Reuters sind diese Milizen aus Mashashia nicht der Revolution beigetreten und sollen als Loyalisten gelten, ja. Ich denke mal man sollte den Leuten in Libyen Zeit geben um den Widerstand organisieren zu können. Momentan sieht die Lage wohl so aus, dass so ziemlich jede einzelne Stadt ein eigenes kleines Herrschaftssystem aufbaut und der NTC in Tripolis so gut wie überhaupt nichts zu sagen hat.Libyen zerfällt momentan in seine Stammesgebiete....Zitat:
Oder sind die Milizen aus Mashashia Anhänger Gaddafis?
Zudem sollte man bedenken, dass rund 500 000 Libyer(ca. 10% der Bevölkerung) noch immer in Tunesien in Flüchtlingslagern lebt. Viele davon werden wohl der derzeitigen Regierung nicht gerade wohl gesonnen sein....
http://www.libyaherald.com/over-5000...ador-in-tunis/Zitat:
Libya’s ambassador in Tunis, Jamal Jirnaz, confirmed yesterday that the number of Libyans in Tunisia had reached 537,000 and that most of these are ‘runaways and wanted by justice’ in Libya.
In an interview by Al-Jazira Al-Hurra Al-Libiya reported by Libyan news agency WAL, ambassador Jirnaz also said that the Libyan embassy in Tunis was no longer able to monitor this large number of Libyans in Tunisia and that this issue needed to be looked into by specialist authorities.
He said that the Libyan embassy was in cooperation with the relevant Tunisian authorities in order to protect the nation and Libyan nationals on all levels.
In Libyen herrschen immer diejenigen die
a) die Waffen haben und
b) den Schneid haben, sie einzusetzen.
Das ist Afrika, Baby!
Ein paar Loyalisten konnten wohl doch ihre höheren Positionen behalten. Der oberste Gerichtshof hat jetzt Gesetz 37 welches die "Verherrlichung" Gaddafis unter Strafe gestellt hat für verfassungswidrig erkärt und aufgehoben. :appl:
http://www.rt.com/news/libya-law-banning-gaddafi-868/Zitat:
Libya’s Supreme Court has annulled a law that criminalized praising late leader Muammar Gaddafi and his regime, following an outrage among civil groups and legal experts describing it as undemocratic.
On Thursday, court head Judge Kamal Bashir Dahan ruled that the new law, passed in May, Reuters reports.
"In the name of the people, the court has decided to accept the appeal of Law 37 of 2012 as it is unconstitutional," he said in a brief hearing.
Under that law, passed by the National Transitional Council, praising or glorifying the ousted Colonel Gaddafi was punishable by a prison sentence ranging from three to 15 years. The law also criminalized spreading news or information “harming the February 17 revolution.”
The Supreme Court agreed to review Law 37 after lawyer Saleh al-Marghani appealed it, saying it violated freedom of expression.
Ich bin ja mal auf die Reaktion der NTC-Ratten gespannt.
Die Kämpfe im Westen des Landes zwischen Loyalisten aus El-Mashisha und den Zintanratten sind jetzt soweit ausgeartet, dass die gesamte Region zum Kriegsgebiet erklärt worden ist.
http://www.rt.com/news/libya-troops-zintan-clashes-008/Zitat:
Libyan authorities have sent troops to the west of the country to quell clashes between rival militias as divisions continue to rock post-Gaddafi Libya. The area has been declared a “military zone.”
Sixteen people have been killed after six days of clashes between revolutionary fighters and forces loyal to the former regime in the area, which includes the towns of Zintan, Mizdah and Shegayga, south of the capital, Tripoli.
The NTC has called for an end to violence, which is the latest of numerous challenges the new government has faced since last year’s uprising.
The fighting involves militiamen from Zintan, who played an important role in Gaddafi’s ouster, and a rival tribe called El-Mashisha which backed the former ruler.
"The army is going there now to impose a ceasefire and protect civilians," the army's Colonel Hamed Zwei told Reuters.
At least four people were killed in clashes in December. The fighting resumed again this week after Zintan militias attacked the El-Mashashia tribe accusing them of killing a Zintan fighter.
Ein sehr interessanter Guardian Artikel über die Hintergründe des Libyenkrieges:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...nda-marches-onZitat:
"The less they see of us, the less they will dislike us." So remarked Frederick Roberts, British general during the Anglo-Afghan war of 1878-80, ushering in a policy of co-opting Afghan leaders to control their people on the empire's behalf.
"Indirect rule", as it was called, was long considered the linchpin of British imperial success, and huge swaths of that empire were conquered, not by British soldiers, but by soldiers recruited elsewhere in the empire. It was always hoped that the dirty work of imperial control could be conducted without spilling too much white man's blood.
It is a lesson that has been re-learned in recent years. The ever-rising western body counts in Iraq and Afghanistan have reminded politicians that colonial wars in which their own soldiers are killed do not win them popularity at home. The hope in both cases is that US and British soldiers can be safely extricated, leaving a proxy force of allies to kill opponents of the new regime on our behalf.
And so too in Africa.
To reassert its waning influence on the continent in the face of growing Chinese investment, the US established Africom – the "Africa Command" of the US military – in October 2008. Africom co-ordinates all US military activity in Africa and, according to its mission statement, "contributes to increasing security and stability in Africa – allowing African states and regional organizations to promote democracy, to expand development, to provide for their common defense, and to better serve their people".
However, in more unguarded moments, officials have been more straightforward: Vice Admiral Robert Moeller declared in a conference in 2008 that Africom was about preserving "the free flow of natural resources from Africa to the global market", and two years later, in a piece in Foreign policy magazine, wrote: "Let there be no mistake. Africom's job is to protect American lives and promote American interests." Through this body, western powers are resorting to the use of military power to win back the leverage once attained through financial monopoly.
The small number of US personnel actually working for Africom – approximately 2,000 – belies both the ambition of the project and the threat it poses to genuine African independence. The idea, once again, is that it will not be US or European forces fighting and dying for western interests in the coming colonial wars against Africa, but Africans. The US soldiers employed by Africom are not there to fight, but to direct; the great hope is that the African Union's forces can be subordinated to a chain of command headed by Africom.
Libya was a test case. The first war actually commanded by Africom, it proved remarkably successful – a significant regional power was destroyed without the loss of a single US or European soldier. But the significance of this war for Africom went much deeper than that for, in taking out Muammar Gaddafi, Africom had actually eliminated the project's fiercest adversary.
Gaddafi ended his political life as a dedicated pan-Africanist and, whatever one thought of the man, it is clear that his vision for African was very different from that of the subordinate supplier of cheap labour and raw materials that Africom was created to maintain. He was not only the driving force behind the creation of the African Union in 2002, but had also served as its elected head, and made Libya its biggest financial donor. To the dismay of some of his African colleagues, he used his time as leader to push for a "United States of Africa", with a single currency, single army and single passport. More concretely, Gaddafi's Libya had an estimated $150bn worth of investment in Africa – often in social infrastructure and development projects, and this largesse bought him many friends, particularly in the smaller nations. As long as Gaddafi retained this level of influence in Africa, Africom was going to founder.
Since his removal, however, the organisation has been rolling full steam ahead. It is no coincidence that within months of the fall of Tripoli – and in the same month as Gaddafi's execution – President Obama announced the deployment of 100 US special forces to four different African countries, including Uganda. Ostensibly to aid the "hunt for Joseph Kony", they are instead training Africans to fight the US's proxy war in Somalia – where 2,000 more Ugandan soldiers had been sent the previous month.
Fourteen major joint military exercises between Africom and African states are also due to take place this year; and a recent press release from the Africa Partnership Station – Africom's naval training programme – explained that 2013's operations will be moving "away from a training-intensive program" and into the field of "real-world operations".
This is a far cry from the Africa of 2007, which refused to allow Africom a base on African soil, forcing it to establish its headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. Gaddafi's Libya had served not only as a bulwark against US military designs on the continent, but also as a crucial bridge between black Africa south of the Sahara and Arab Africa in the north. The racism of the new Nato-installed Libyan regime, currently supporting what amounts to a nationwide pogrom against the country's black population, serves to tear down this bridge and push back the prospects for African unity still further.
With Africom on the march and its strongest opponent gone, the African Union now faces the biggest choice in its history: is it to become a force for regional integration and independence, or merely a conduit for continued western military aggression against the continent?
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The Zionist Infestation Of Africa
by Jonathan Azaziah
It isn’t matter of debate, on any level, that historically, Africa has been the most tormented and tortured of the planet’s continents and regions. Ravaged by centuries of colonialism and its bastard child, the Transatlantic Slave Trade, imperialism, civil wars instigated by foreign intelligence agencies, the plundering of natural resources and faux “humanitarian” interventions en masse, it seems that Africa just cannot find the salaam it undeniably and screamingly deserves. Much has been written about Africa’s plight being a product of Western aggression and Western racism but this is only a partial truth, as is so often the case when a discussion of world events and world history is initiated in the modern era of media domination, manipulation and disinformation. There are hidden hands behind every bit of genocide and suffering in Africa, past and present alike.
In the groundbreaking works The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews: Volume One, The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews: Volume Two - How Jews Gained Control of the Black American Economy and Jews Selling Blacks: Slave Sale Advertising by American Jews, the Historical Research Department of the Nation of Islam, based 100% on Jewish (oftentimes rabbinical) and philo-Semitic sources, unequivocally demonstrates that the torturous, inhuman and genocidal Transatlantic Slave Trade was an endeavor dominated by Jews, going back to the very beginnings of it in Brazil and Surinam.
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Moses Maimonides, Judaism’s most celebrated rabbinic ‘sage,’ has written that Blacks are “irrational animals” who are “below mankind but above monkeys (2).”
Maimonides’ views are central to the overall Jewish view of Black people, as his name among Jews is an infallible and holy one. Talmudic rabbis have deepened The Curse of Ham over time, attributing bestiality as a regular engagement among Blacks, concocting depraved sexual fantasies of Ham fornicating with dogs and ravens and thus, having his skin damned with even more blackness for his perversion (3). Sick would be an understatement; demented wouldn’t even begin the description. And when the usurping Zionist regime’s policies towards Ethiopian Jews are examined in depth, and they are nothing short of emphatically deplorable, as well as Jewish discrimination against Blacks in the United States due to the disproportionate Jewish accumulation of wealth (4), it is as clear as the sky is dark when the sun falls that these hideous Talmudic beliefs are very much intact today, in the main blocs of Jewish life.
The Rothschild family, the infamous and monstrously powerful Jewish dynasty of bankers, socialites and philanthropists who are rightly considered to be the godfathers of the criminal Zionist entity, are also linked to profiting from the Transatlantic Slave Trade (5). The Rothschild family was also fervently Talmudist, a tradition dating back to the family’s grandsire, Mayer Amschel himself, who was described by one S.J. Cohen in an unofficial, albeit accurate, admiring and authoritative biography of the Jewish financier entitled, “The Exemplary Life of The Immortal Banker Mr. Mayer Amschel Rothschild,” as a “zealous believer in the Talmud and chose it alone as the guiding principle of all his actions (6).” Therefore, it shouldn’t be one bit astonishing that the Rothschild family would take part in such a cruel, murderous practice as slavery, as their Jewish beliefs dictated to them that it was perfectly okay to do so; their halfwit, nonsensical apologies notwithstanding. The Rothschild dynasty’s beliefs are also intrinsic to the spread of British and French colonialism throughout the African continent.
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In the Congo, where a catastrophic genocide has been occurring since 1996, in which up to 10 million people have died at a maddening rate of 1,500 a day, the profiteers of this downright insidious humanitarian disaster are almost exclusively Jewish and intimately linked to the larger network of international Zionism that has been responsible for every major conflict of the last century. Led by Dan Gertler, the grandson of Moshe Schnitzer, an Irgun terrorist known throughout the Zionist entity as “Mr. Diamond” and for founding the “Israel” Diamond Exchange in Tel Aviv in 1960, which today brings the usurping regime $14 billion annually in blood business, there is a Jewish-Zionist network in the Congo so interlocked, so powerful and so domineering, that it can truly make one’s head spin (65).
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Dan Gertler:the Chabadnik Zionist and Jewish"merchant of death" responsible for drowning the Congo in blood.
Gertler, a member of the influential Chabad Lubavitch supremacist gangster cult and guided by Rabbi Chaim Yaakov Leibovitch, is in bed with Jewish diamond dynasties that include the families of Templesman, Oppenheimer, Mendell, Blattner, Hertzov and Steinmetz, his main partner. The Chabadnik criminal bought off the Congolese government in exchange for high-level “Israeli” defense and intelligence assistance. The endeavors of Gertler and Beny Steinmetz, one of the richest Jews in the Zionist entity, have proliferated and today, they have a monopoly over Congo’s diamonds, a dominant stake in Congo’s copper and the largest cobalt-mining company in the world. And all of this blood money ties into Jewish organized crime, “Israeli” arms dealers, multiple influential Chabad houses and the Zionist occupation itself all the way up to Netanyahu’s office (65). Gertler, a Jewish supremacist of the highest order, revels in sucking the Congo’s blood and he’s so sadistically thirsty for it, he just won’t stop his criminality until there is nothing left but millions more dead.
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http://www.maskofzion.com/2012/04/zi...-zimbabwe.html
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The Zionist Infestation Of Africa Revisited
by Jonathan Azaziah
As the cliché famously goes when one attempts to point out the mysterious or little-known intricacies of a certain historical event, “the devil is in the details.” An extension of this idiom, when it is applied to the shadowy world of the tribal supremacist persons who govern geopolitics through their kinship networks that extend throughout every sector of society, would most aptly be, “the more details, the more devils.” And nowhere is this addendum more appropriately put to use than the ravaged continent of Africa.
In Mask of Zion’s first report on Jewish-Zionist intrigues in Africa, “The Zionist Infestation Of Africa: Zimbabwe To Uganda, Congo To Somalia And Beyond (1),” numerous nations, events and figures were investigated and a plethora of previously suppressed or unknown truths were brought to light for the very first time. This second summary will expound upon many of these revelations, exposing new players, going behind the curtains of new nations and returning to critical plot points already discussed to present an even more damning account of the overall agenda of the Jewish exploitation machine vigorously gnawing at the core of the African continent. Thus, “the more details, the more devils,” and assuredly, the following will not contain a shortage of either.
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http://www.maskofzion.com/2012/05/zi...revisited.html
Bei den bisher schwersten Kämpfen im Westen Libyens zwischen Loyalisten und Zintanratten sind bis jetzt 62 Menschen getötet und 137 weitere verletzt worden.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/91340...#axzz1yEK9b5dQZitat:
Libyan armed forces have arrived in the country’s western Nafusa mountains to quell days of inter-communal clashes that have left 62 people dead and 137 injured.
The arrival of the armed forces coincides with the official start of campaigning ahead of Libya’s first parliamentary election in six decades. Nearly 3m voters have been registered and thousands of candidates are preparing to run in the July 7 vote for the 200-seat parliament, which will oversee the drafting of a constitution.
Gestern wurde as Tunesische Konsulat in Benghazi von bewaffneten Islamisten gestürmt und verwüstet. Opfer soll es keine gegeben haben.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...e1d0a85b243.d1Zitat:
BENGHAZI, Libya — Gunmen on Monday stormed the Tunisian consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, diplomatic and security sources told AFP, without reporting casualties.
"The Tunisian consulate has been stormed by armed men," a security official told AFP on condition of anonymity, blaming the attack on a local brigade known as the Partisans of Shariah, or Islamic law.
A Tunisian embassy official in Tripoli confirmed the report and said that employees at the consulate had been threatened ahead of the attack. He said no one was wounded in the assault.
Libyan security forces deployed in mass to the consulate and took back the building from the armed men who withdrew without resistance, an AFP journalist at the scene said.
Libyen geht es ja richtig gut jetzt.
Prima, was die NATO da erreicht hat.
Endlich Frieden :D
Die Kämpfe zwischen Loyalisten und Zintanratten im Westen Libyens sind jetzt wohl vorerst vorbei. Insgesamt sind rund 105 Menschen getötet und 500 weitere verletzt worden....
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...3e46cd2f43.951Zitat:
A week of tribal clashes southwest of Tripoli cost 105 lives and left more than 500 people wounded, a Libyan official said Wednesday, adding that calm had returned to the mountain region.
"The death toll of clashes in the region of Sheguiga and Zintan reached 105 and more than 500 others were wounded," interim government spokesman Nasser al-Manaa told journalists in Tripoli.
The statement comes four days after Libyan authorities called for an immediate ceasefire and declared several mountain towns in the west of the country, including Sheguiga and Zintan, a "military zone."
"It was difficult for the army to intervene directly at the beginning out of fear of provoking further civilian casualties," Manaa added, adding that calm had been restored after high-level mediations with all parties concerned.
"The situation has been calm without clashes in the past two days," he said.
Manaa said a national army brigade has taken position between the rival parties to prevent further bloodshed.
The health ministry had had to mobilise 42 ambulances and dozens of doctors to the region to help evacuate casualties as well as send emergency supplies to hospitals in the towns of Zintan, Yefren, Gheryan and Mizdah.
Doctor Omar Buseifi, head of the emergency unit of the hospital of Gheryan, a city near the area of clashes, told AFP he had documented 78 deaths, the vast majority of them members of the Mashashia tribe.
He confirmed there had been no fighting or new casualties since Monday. "The situation is very stable now, I think we've reached peace," the doctor said.
Die sogenannte "Cyrenaica Armee", die dem Benghazi Rattencouncil untersteht, hat jetzt die Landverbindung zwischen Benghazi und Tripolis in der Nähe von Las Ranuf gesperrt. Ein Durchkommen ist mittlerweile nur noch per Flugzeug möglich.....
http://www.libyaherald.com/cyrenaica...ates-his-case/Zitat:
Brigadier-General Hamid Hassi is commander of the so-called Army of Cyrenaica, the military wing of the self-appointed Cyrenaica Transitional Council. Libya Herald’s Ashraf Abdul-Wahab questioned him about its real intentions.
AA: What is the truth behind the cutting-off of the main road connecting between Benghazi and Tripoli at the Wadi Al-Ahmar (“The Red Valley” – the historic border between Tripolitania and Cyrenaica)?
HH: Yes, we put a checkpoint in the Wadi Al-Ahmar area but we did not try to prevent any vehicles belonging to the general public from driving across. We were only there to stop vehicles carrying weapons or any other forms of military equipment because we do not want any eastern forces or weapons reaching the western region for whatever reason.
AA: It’s said that you want to set-up an independent state in the eastern province, even if by force of arms if necessary?
HH: At the moment, we’re protesting over our demands for an equal number of seats in the National General Conference. We do not want the country divided.
AA: If you are only requesting to have equal seats, why then form an army which you’ve called “The Army of Cyrenaica”? Why did you not turn to the Constitutional and Supreme Courts or to peaceful protests?
HH: We have submitted a request to the Constitutional Court of Benghazi, but at the instructions of Mustafa Abdul Jalil, the appeal was rejected. However, we have submitted another one.
AA: Is the Army of Cyrenaica under with Ministry of Defence?
HH: No, the Cyrenaica Army is affiliated with the Chief of Staff because we do not approve of Ministry of Defense or the Defense Minister because he is a civilian and has no right to be head of a Military Ministry!
AA: Don’t you think by requesting federalism, division of the country and the formation of an independent army you will be in effect exposing yourselves to retribution of the law, which carries within its provisions the death penalty?
HH: This law has become null and void because it was made by the old tyrant.
AA: No, this law was in place since the 1950s, from the days of the Libyan Kingdom!
HH: No. Such laws have been altered and we do not approve if it.
AA: Do you still insist on supporting federalism and the division of the country, and are prepared to achieve that even it means using arms?
HH: No, we will not use force except if necessary. As it is, you can see the general situation in Libya — from Kufra to the Nafusa Mountains and to Sebha.
We insist that Tripoli remain the capital, but federalism is not about division. We want self-rule for Cyrenaica and be in control of our assets and capabilities. We have suffered marginalization for so long.
AA: Muhammed Al-Huti stated that the new borders of a free Cyrenaica are being drawn up and that you have prepared a list of the ministers of the new state. Would you have a role in this state?
HH: Muhammed Al-Huti is an internet blogger and we do not have anything to do with him. He is the one responsible for what he says.
AA: Are you satisfied with dividing Libya into east, west and south? Don’t you think that this might encourage other areas to request the same thing?
HH: Libya is currently divided and the best proof of that is that Misrata has now in effect a separate government, and Zintan likewise.
AA: Do you expect armed confrontation with the Libyan national army led by the Ministry of Defense?
HH: There is no Libyan national army in the first place. The Ministry of Defence is unable to form a national army. In any case, we are part of General Staff. So we don’t think the General Staff is going to send military forces to fight us.
Ashraf Abdul-Wahab adds: The Libyan Defense Minister Osama Juwaily was a former officer in the Libyan armed forces but was made redundant when the former regime decided to make employment cuts. Last year, he led most of the battles in the Nafusa Mountains in the fighting against Qaddafi’s troops.
There were also reports that the main road was blocked at Wadi Al-Ahmar and that coaches from Egypt on their way to Tripoli were made to turn back. Most of the passengers had to continue their journey to Tripoli by air.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...st-highway-cutZitat:
The main highway linking east and west Libya has been cut by armed militia demanding changes to the rules of the country's national elections due on 7 July.
Armed units backed by vehicles mounted with anti-aircraft guns have cut the highway at Red Wadi, 40 miles from Libya's main oil refinery at Ras Lanuf.
The militia say they will stay in place until Cyrenaica, Libya's oil-rich eastern province, is given a greater distribution of seats in the new national parliament, the national congress.
The region's self-declared Barqa Council – the Arab name for Cyrenaica – is calling for a boycott of the national elections unless seats are shared equally between Libya's three provinces.
The roadblock, which government forces have not opposed, has further raised concerns over doubts over whether Libya can hold free and fair elections on schedule as violence continues in many parts of the country
Zudem wurde Al-Baghdadi al-Mahmoudi, der letzte Premierminister Libyens, nach seiner illegalen Überstellung von den NTC-Ratten so stark gefoltert, dass er mehrere Rippenbrüche und einen Lungenriss davon getragen hat. Er soll mittlerweile im Koma liegen.....
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The lawyer acting for Libya's former prime minister Al-Baghdadi al-Mahmoudi, who was extradited to Tripoli from Tunisia at the weekend, claims his client has been tortured.
Marcel Ceccaldi, a French lawyer, said on Wednesday Mahmoudi had been badly beaten by Libyan security officers and left with broken ribs and a punctured lung.
"According to the information I have, it seems that he has been beaten," said Ceccaldi. "He is in hospital, under guard."
But Libya's government denied torture had taken place. Tripoli officials said reports of Mahmoudi being wounded were rumours, amounting to a "naked lie".
A Libyan government spokesman, Nassar el-Manaa, on Wednesday denied claims that Mahmoudi was mistreated in prison. "We would like to say it's wrong, a naked lie … that he was attacked and is in a sort of coma. Al-Bagdadi al-Mahmoudi is in good health and he is in need of nothing, god willing."
He said human rights groups had yet to visit the former prime minister, who, he said, was being held in a justice ministry facility. "In the near future a visit will be given to any Tunisian entity to see for themselves the condition."
Tunisia's president, Moncef Marzouki, has branded the extradition "illegal", saying it was done behind his back.
Mahmoudi served as Muammar Gaddafi's prime minister from March 2006, until, in August 2011, fleeing to Tunisia after the fall of Tripoli to rebel forces. He was reportedly handed over to Libyan officials in Tunis on Sunday and flown by helicopter to a Libyan prison.
Ein neues Video aus Libyen vom 24.04.2012. Es soll die Kämpfer der Bani Walid Armee zeigen, welche sich derzeit in der Sahara aufhalten soll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ1nBMK_dVk
In den Nefusa Bergen vor 1 Jahr. NTC Ratten haben Tuareg Kämpfer als Loyalisten gefangen oder getötet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_0hn...eature=related
Stelle der Gefangennahme Gaddafis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6B5E...eature=related
Es sind mal wieder schwere Gefechte im Süden Libyens ausgebrochen. Angehörige des Toubou Stammes sollen derzeit gegen NTC-Ratten aus Misrata und Benghazi kämpfen. In den letzten 3 Tagen sind bei diesen schweren Gefechten rund 47 Menschen getötet worden....
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...3999aa0a54.5d1Zitat:
Renewed tribal clashes in the Libyan city of Kufra have claimed at least 47 lives and left more than 100 others wounded in three days, local leaders and a medic told AFP on Saturday.
"Thirty-two have been killed this week in the two Toubou residential areas," a medic treating Toubou casualties in Kufra told AFP.
"The number of wounded exceeds 100. Women and children make up more than half of the injured, with the majority of them hurt by mortar fire," added doctor Taher Wehli.
The medic said his clinic had documented eight deaths on Saturday alone.
Tribal leader Hussein Sake said the shelling against Toubou areas in the desert city was ongoing and unrelenting.
"It is a situation of war with continuous attacks on Toubou neighbourhoods," Sake told AFP. "They keep shelling us, so of course now we hit back to defend ourselves."
Sake blamed the outbreak of violence on rival Zwai tribesmen and their allies, who he said include the Libya Shield brigade, a force deployed by the interim government to act as a buffer between the conflicting camps.
Wissam Ben Hamid, commander of the brigade, insisted his forces were neutral and trying to broker a new truce after clashes broke out late Wednesday.
He said the fighting pitted Toubou tribesmen against Zwai and other tribes.
The commander confirmed the death toll was "high, about 30" and stressed that "negotiations are now underway to calm tensions."
Abdullah Zwai, meanwhile, said his tribe had also suffered heavy losses at the hands of the Toubou, "with 14 people killed in the past two days."
He said Toubou tribesmen on Friday attacked the Libya Shield brigade, killing one member.
Gangster wurden durch Ganster abgelöst - wie überall bei den Muschimanen.
Völliger Unsinn. Das wurde aber hier vor 1 Jahr schon alles intensiv erklärt.Zitat:
Zitat von SAMURAI
Wenn DU es sagst muss es ja stimmen - Widerspruch sinn- und zwecklos. Wer in einer eindimensionalel Welt lebt wird schon an der zweidimensinalen Welt scheidern.Zitat:
Zitat von Quo vadis
DU verstehst ?
Das ist kein Argument deinerseits, ich hatte auf die Strangentwicklung verwiesen. In Libyen wurde ein Erfolgsmodell von vom Ausland installiertem Radikalislamistentum abgelöst, im Grunde verharmlost du das allenfalls menschenähnliche Gesindel, welches jetzt Libyen terrorisiert.Zitat:
Zitat von SAMURAI
keineswegsZitat:
Zitat von Quo vadis
Gesindel bleibt Gesindel - war vorher so, ist nachher auch so
Willst Du bestreiten, dass islamistische Horden mit Hilfe der USA, Frankreich, England und der Judenlobby an die gebombt wurden?Zitat:
Zitat von SAMURAI
Nein, nicht die Jooooden, sondern u.a. dieser Joode.
Du verstehst? Sicher nicht!
Anstatt in diesen Strang 'reinzuplatzen, tätest Du gut daran, ein paar Seiten darin zu lesen.
Du solltest Dich mal mit der wechselhaften Geschichte Lybiens befassen.Zitat:
Zitat von Bettmaen
DU meinst ich soll 17000 Beiträge lesen. Hast DU sie noch alle ? DU kannst mir die wichtigsten Beiträge raussuchen.
Dass die USA, Briten und Franzmänne gebomt habden ist mir bekannt - aber ein Jode - das ist neu. Hebe die Lampe und erhelle mich in der Finsternis meines Unwissens.
Gestern haben mindestens 300 bewaffnete Protestler das Wahlbüro des NTCs in Benghazi gestürmt, die Gebäude verwüstet und die Wahlzettel verbrannt....
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNew...86101020120702Zitat:
ENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - Armed protesters calling for more autonomy for Libya's east stormed the national election commission in Benghazi on Sunday, burning materials and breaking computer equipment outside, less than a week before the North African country holds an election.
About 300 men carried computers and ballot boxes from the building in Libya's second city and began crushing them while chanting pro-federalism slogans, a Reuters correspondent at the scene said.
"They ran into our building, set fire to some of our offices and broke our computers and the furniture," Haitham al-Taboly, who works for the election commission, told Reuters.
"We lost most of the administrative material we have worked on for months, but we hope we can retrieve some of it before the elections using backup storage."
The violence follows a series of security breaches in the coastal city, which was the cradle of last year's uprising that ended Muammar Gaddafi's 42-year rule, adding to concerns of how safe Libya's first free national elections on July 7 will be.
Candidates, voters and election commission officials have called on the government to beef up security for the polls, which will elect a national assembly, to ensure the legitimacy of the vote.
Piles of voting lists, ballot papers and other documents were set ablaze at the gates to the election commission. Smoke billowed out of some of the windows in the building.
Taboly said the protesters were chanting for an equal number of seats in the 200-strong national assembly. The ruling National Transitional Council assigned 102 seats for Tripoli and 38 for the east according to population density of the regions.
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Das zeigt doch mal wieder das mangelnde Demokratieverständnis der "Freiheitskämpfer".Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Die Sitze im Parlament werden nach Bevölkerungsdichte vergeben. Da im Westen nun mal mehr Menschen leben, hat dieser auch einen größeren Anteil. Das will aber nicht in die Erbsenhirne der Ostlibyer, da diese auch um die Kontrolle der Ölfelder fürchten und deswegen machen die (wohl schon seit Gaddafis Zeiten) Radau.
Was schon im Oktober von den NTC-Ratten verkündet wurde, ist jetzt noch einmal bestätigt worden. Die Scharia soll als "Rechtsgrundlage" im neuen Libyen eingeführt werden.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...9bf4e2ae76.511Zitat:
Sharia should be 'main' source of Libya legislation: NTC
TRIPOLI — Libya's outgoing National Transitional Council said on Thursday that Islamic law (sharia) should be the "main" source of legislation and that this should not be subject to a referendum.
"The Libyan people are attached to Islam, as a religion and legislation," NTC spokesman Saleh Darhoub said, reading from a statement.
"As such the National Transitional Council recommends that the (next) congress make sharia the main source of legislation.
"And this should not be subject to a referendum," he added, speaking to journalists in Tripoli.
He later explained that the decision was made to reassure elements of society fearful of being saddled with a constitution that does not take into account Islamic law, or sharia.
"We are not afraid of holding a referendum on sharia. But we wanted to reassure elements of society who are scared of the referendum," Darhoub said.
Libyans are to vote on Saturday for a General National Congress, which will be tasked with appointing a new government and a constituent authority.
The constitution needs to be approved in a national referendum, under a transition framework laid out by the NTC, which took power when long-time leader Moamer Kadhafi was slain last year.
Some of the key issues to be determined by the constitution are the form of governance, the weight of Islam in state and society, the role of women and the rights of minorities.
After the constitution is approved, the newly elected congress will have 30 days to issue a new election law, with elections for a government to be held 180 days after that, according to the NTC's roadmap.
If these benchmarks are met, the new authorities will be in power for a period of roughly 12 months, a short window of opportunity to tackle major challenges such as disarming militias and reviving the judiciary.
Hundreds of armed men calling for Islamic law and rejecting democracy as "Western" staged a demonstration last month in the eastern city of Benghazi, which held the NTC's war-time headquarters.
Well-armed Islamist groups in the east, such as the Partisans of Sharia, oppose the vote, saying that the conservative Muslim country needs no constitution other than the Koran.
Libya's interim rulers say that radical Islamists are a minority.
There are no sizeable religious minorities in the oil-rich nation and secular values have little traction among conservative Sunni Muslims who make up the majority of the population.
Zudem gehen Analysten davon aus, dass die radikal islamische Muslim Brotherhood die Mehrheit der Wahlstimmen bei der morgen anstehenden Verfassungswahl erhalten wird. Es soll auch bereits ein Deal zwischen dem NTC und der MB ausgehandelt worden sein....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...overnment.htmlZitat:
Libya elections: Muslim Brotherhood set to lead government
Libya's top politicians have hatched a deal that would see the Muslim Brotherhood lead the government after the country's first free elections in almost five decades takes place on Sunday.
While the elections for a 200-member National Congress is unlikely to grant a majority to any one faction, the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamist allies are confident they can join their counterparts in Tunisia and Egypt at the helm of leadership.
Negotiations between the Muslim Brotherhood and a secular-based political movement led by former interim prime minister Mahmoud Jibril have focused on forming a post-election government as soon as the result is known.
An adviser to Mr Jibril said the former prime minister was likely to take the post of figurehead president with Mustafa Abu Shagour, currently interim deputy prime minister of the Muslim Brotherhood, taking the prime minister's slot as head of government.
The Muslim Brotherhood would dominate the ministries.
In the run-up to the elections, Libya's interim government has struggled to maintain law and order.
Unbekannte haben heute in Benghazi einen NTC-Rattenhelikopter mit Flak Geschützen beschossen. Ein offizieller Verteter der NTC-Wahlkommission wurde dabei getötet
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8650RF20120706Zitat:
A helicopter carrying voting material for Saturday's election in Libya made a forced landing near the eastern town of Benghazi on Friday after being struck by anti-aircraft fire in an attack which killed one person on board, a local official said.
It was the latest attempt to derail elections in a region where many seek more autonomy and argue they will be under-represented in a new assembly that will name a prime minister and pave the way for full parliamentary polls next year.
"We were preparing to receive the voting material as it arrived on a helicopter from Tripoli but it was hit and one man died," Ahmed Abdelmalik, an employee at the local branch of the election commission told Reuters.
Hamed Al-Hassi, head of the military council for the Cyrenaica region, confirmed the incident but said the identity of the attackers was not immediately known.
Protests by groups seeking greater autonomy in the east earlier forced the closure of three ports, shutting down around half of Libya's oil exporting capacity.
Die westlichen Propagandmedien feiern die heutigen "Wahlen" als demokratischen Sieg. Wenig bekannt ist, dass gerade einmal 25% der Bevölkerung überhaupt ihre Stimme abgegeben haben. Die schweigende Mehrheit wird wieder einmal übergangen.....
https://twitter.com/MaiE_89Zitat:
HNEC reports that almost one million and two hundred thousand Libyans have cast their votes today via @LibyanFilipino #Libya
Bei missliebigen Regimen sprechen die gleichgeschalteten Medien davon, dass sie keine Legitimation haben, wenn die Wahlbeteiligung so niedrig ausfällt. Widerwärtiges Pack!
Viele Libyer sind dem Wahlboykott offenbar gefolgt - aus den unterschiedlichsten Motiven.
Hier werden die Zahlen noch einmal bestätigt:Zitat:
Zitat von Bettmaen
https://twitter.com/borzouZitat:
#Libya: 1.2mn out of 2.865mn had cast votes by 1600, election commission says
Nichteinmal die Hälfte der registrierten Wähler hat abgestimmt. Man fragt sich nur warum......
Da werden, wie gesagt, verschiedene Motive im Spiele sein. Die Separatisten in der Cyrenaika haben sicher andere Motive als die Gaddafianer in Tripolitanien oder im Süden.Zitat:
Zitat von Steiner
Die meisten werden einfach ernüchtert sein von der "Revolution", die den Kolonialherren und den neuen einheimischen Unterdrückern Vorteile, dem Volk nur Nachteile gebrach hat.
Die meisten wurden von den Rebellen/Islamisten mit Waffengewalt eingeschüchtert.Zitat:
Zitat von Bettmaen
Scheich Ali Salabi, geistiger Führer von Al-Qaida Libyen, Mentor von Abdelhakim Belhaj und starker Mann des „Neuen Libyens als Nachfolger Muamars..Allmächtiger bewahre !
Weil Bani Walid angeblich 2 Journalisten aus Misrata festhält drohen diese nun mit einem militärischen Angriff auf Bani Walid. Ein Misrata Rattenkommandat hat der Stadt ein 48 Stunden Ultimatum ausgehändigt.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...0YW_story.htmlZitat:
TRIPOLI, Libya — A Libyan militia commander says two local journalists are being held in a town known for its support of deposed ruler Moammar Gadhafi.
The dispute is part of the overall lack of security in Libya, where rival militias and armed groups control various parts of the country in the absence of a strong central government and army.
Mohammed al-Swehili, a commander from Misrata, said his forces were giving the captors in the town of Bani Walid 48 hours to free the journalists. If they are not released, he said Monday, forces from all over the country would attack Bani Walid.