Die Anschläge vom 11.9.2001 und 20 Jahre danach!

[Sterntaler]

Ich schon! Sie wissen, daß ihre ganze Welt aus Lügen, Lügen, nichts als Lügen besteht, und wenn aus diesem Gebäude auch nur ein Stein herausfällt, besteht größte Gefahr, daß der ganze Bau kollabiert, also das usraelisch-europäische Raub- und Mord-Imperium in sich zusammenfällt.

der Turmbau zu Babel wird sein jähes Ende finden......

[Marathon]

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[I]Eine CIA-Unterabteilung, die für amerikanische Spionagesatelliten zuständig ist, wickelte am Morgen des 11. September eine Übung ab, der zufolge ein Flugzeug in eines seiner Gebäude raste. Die Operationszentrale des Dienstes befand sich nur 6 Kilometer vom Flughafen Washington-Dulles entfernt, von wo an ebendiesem Morgen jenes Todesflugzeug abhob, das ins Pentagon gerast sein soll. Am gleichen Tag liefen Kriegsspiele, deren Inhalt sich unter anderem um entführte Flugzeuge drehte und Air Force vom Schauplatz der Terrorflüge abzog - was beides zur äußerst mangelhaften Luftabwehrbereitschaft an diesem Tag beitrug.
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Hierzu sollte Marathon mal sein Archiv befragen, wenn er ausgeschlafen hat

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NORAD übte Hijackings + Angriffe mit Flugzeugen auf Gebäude

Posted 4/18/2004 10:22 PM Updated 4/19/2004 3:08 PM

NORAD had drills of jets as weapons
By Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON - In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.

One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center. In another exercise, jets performed a mock shootdown over the Atlantic Ocean of a jet supposedly laden with chemical poisons headed toward a target in the United States. In a third scenario, the target was the Pentagon - but that drill was not run after Defense officials said it was unrealistic, NORAD and Defense officials say.

NORAD, in a written statement, confirmed that such hijacking exercises occurred. It said the scenarios outlined were regional drills, not regularly scheduled continent-wide exercises.

"Numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft," the statement said. "These exercises tested track detection and identification; scramble and interception; hijack procedures; internal and external agency coordination and operational security and communications security procedures."

A White House spokesman said Sunday that the Bush administration was not aware of the NORAD exercises. But the exercises using real aircraft show that at least one part of the government thought the possibility of such attacks, though unlikely, merited scrutiny.

On April 8, the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks heard testimony from national security adviser Condoleezza Rice that the White House didn't anticipate hijacked planes being used as weapons.

On April 12, a watchdog group, the Project on Government Oversight, released a copy of an e-mail written by a former NORAD official referring to the proposed exercise targeting the Pentagon. The e-mail said the simulation was not held because the Pentagon considered it "too unrealistic."

President Bush said at a news conference Tuesday, "Nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government, could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale."

The exercises differed from the Sept. 11 attacks in one important respect: The planes in the simulation were coming from a foreign country.

Until Sept. 11, NORAD was expected to defend the United States and Canada from aircraft based elsewhere. After the attacks, that responsibility broadened to include flights that originated in the two countries.

But there were exceptions in the early drills, including one operation, planned in July 2001 and conducted later, that involved planes from airports in Utah and Washington state that were "hijacked." Those planes were escorted by U.S. and Canadian aircraft to airfields in British Columbia and Alaska.

NORAD officials have acknowledged that "scriptwriters" for the drills included the idea of hijacked aircraft being used as weapons.

"Threats of killing hostages or crashing were left to the scriptwriters to invoke creativity and broaden the required response," Maj. Gen. Craig McKinley, a NORAD official, told the 9/11 commission. No exercise matched the specific events of Sept. 11, NORAD said.

"We have planned and executed numerous scenarios over the years to include aircraft originating from foreign airports penetrating our sovereign airspace," Gen. Ralph Eberhart, NORAD commander, told USA TODAY. "Regrettably, the tragic events of 9/11 were never anticipated or exercised."

NORAD, a U.S.-Canadian command, was created in 1958 to guard against Soviet bombers.

Until Sept. 11, 2001, NORAD conducted four major exercises a year. Most included a hijack scenario, but not all of those involved planes as weapons. Since the attacks, NORAD has conducted more than 100 exercises, all with mock hijackings.

NORAD fighters based in Florida have intercepted two hijacked smaller aircraft since the Sept. 11 attacks. Both originated in Cuba and were escorted to Key West in spring 2003, NORAD said.

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July 2001: NORAD Plans a Mock Simultaneous Hijacking Threat From Inside the US

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Im Jahr 1987 wurde von Indien eine Flugzeugentführung realistisch vorgetäuscht inklusive passender Pressemitteilungen:

MOCK SECURITY HIJACKING ALARMS INDIANS, INCLUDING SOME OFFICIALS

By STEVEN R. WEISMAN, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: January 17, 1987

LEAD: Indian security forces staged a mock hijacking of a commercial plane by supposed Sikh extremists today in an operation so realistic that for hours several officials said they believed a real hijacking was under way.

Indian security forces staged a mock hijacking of a commercial plane by supposed Sikh extremists today in an operation so realistic that for hours several officials said they believed a real hijacking was under way.

The mock hijackers were reported to have seized the plane after takeoff from New Delhi, flown it to Aurangabad, 400 miles away, and demanded a million dollars and the release of prisoners held in the city of Bhopal.

At one point, the authorities told a leading Indian news agency that the four gunmen had thrown the body of a slain passenger onto the tarmac.

As it turned out, officials said, there were no regular passengers aboard the plane, only Government personnel taking part in the mock exercise.

It was not clear which of the people reporting the hijacking were deliberately spreading a false version of the events and which believed that a hijacking was under way. Alarm and Confusion

The incident spread alarm and confusion throughout the country before the Press Trust of India, the leading news agency here, told subscribers in the late afternoon that the agency's report was not true.

Official Indian spokesmen had said for most of the day that the hijacking was only a security exercise, but the Press Trust, while disseminating their statement, continued to quote other authorities as saying the hijacking was still under way.

Meanwhile, the United News of India, a rival agency, stuck by its earlier report that the hijacking was a security exercise.

With some embarrassment, the Press Trust instructed editors at midafternoon that its earlier reports about the hijacking should not be disseminated. But by then Indian newspapers and news agencies had handled a flood of anxious phone calls about the episode.

Tonight, a Government official said even the earlier reports about the Sikh gunmen aboard the plane shouting demands for a separate state for Sikhs had been part of the exercise.

This admission was considered likely to roil the Sikhs, whose leaders charge that Sikhs are unfairly singled out by the Government as terrorist suspects. 'Any Stick to Beat the Sikhs'

''It's absolutely asinine,'' said Khushwant Singh, a writer and Sikh historian. ''Any stick is good enough to beat the Sikhs. It's a vicious kind of thing to do.''

But an Indian official defended the use of Sikh extremist slogans as making the exercise more realistic, saying, ''We cannot have pro-Palestine slogans, can we?''

Four fictitious names of Sikhs were also given out to the Press Trust, but the official said they were not supposed to have been released.

The confusion over the hijacking report underscored India's extreme nervousness over terrorism, and it seemed also to highlight credibility problems in the Government, since news organizations were uncertain about the Government assertions that the hijacking was only an exercise. Conflicting Reports From Agency

A spokesman for the Press Trust said its editors did not know which reports to believe, so the agency reported the Government assertion along with reports from Bombay that the hijacking was actually going on.

Another factor prolonging the confusion was the poor telephone service in India. From New Delhi and Bombay, it was impossible to determine exactly what was going on at Aurangabad, 100 miles east of Bombay.

At a briefing tonight, I. Ramamohan Rao, the Government spokesman, said the supposed hijacking was ''a joint exercise'' by the Home and Civil Aviation Ministries to check the preparedness of various security agencies. ''Such exercises are likely to continue,'' he said.

The hijacking was reported to have occurred aboard a plane bound for Bombay via Udaipur and Ahmedabad. Throughout the day, some other Government officials said the hijacking was indeed a hoax.

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Jetzt stelle man sich vor, dass am 11.September 2001 ebenfalls so eine realistische, aber dennoch vorgetäuschte Flugzeugentführung stattfand, diese Übung dann aber zum Beispiel mit Hilfe einer plötzlich aktivierten Fernsteuerung zur Realität wurde, die Übungs-Hijacker also selbst verarscht worden sind.

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Only a drill
Mock hijacking tests emergency response plan

November 21, 2005

By Don Conrard

It was just like the movies when shortly after 8 p.m. on Nov. 1 an Alaska Airlines jet bound for Miami with 80 passengers and crew was hijacked by terrorists as it taxied for takeoff in Seattle.

The lead "hijacker", played by an FBI language specialist,
announces that the airplane has been hijacked and threatens
passengers with a gun and hand grenade.

Luckily Captain Stevan Kaplan and First Officer Greg Sturgis managed to escape by climbing out the flightdeck window and sliding down to the tarmac on a rope.

With the pilots gone, the jet sat on the runway for more than four hours while agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) negotiated with the terrorists over a series of demands, including the release of the lead hijacker's brother from the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Onboard the aircraft, the hijackers threatened the frightened passengers at gun point, while haranguing them with a litany of complaints about U.S. foreign policy.

The crisis ended when the combined FBI and Valley SWAT teams stormed the aircraft, killing two of the four terrorists during a furious firefight. Tragically, four passengers were shot by the terrorists during the standoff.

If you're wondering how you missed all of this in the news, the answer is it was all staged like a Hollywood movie, but with a more serious purpose than entertainment.

The mock hijacking was part of one of the most elaborate hijacking drills ever conducted in the United States. Called the 'Seattle Joint Exercise and Tactical Scenario' (SEA-JETS), it was a combined effort by the FBI, Port of Seattle Police Department and Alaska to test the response plans of various law enforcement agencies to a real-life hijacking.
FBI and Valley SWAT teams stormed the aircraft,
pretending to kill two of the four terrorists during a
furious firefight.

'The hijacking scenario was designed to be as realistic as possible,' said Holly Geiger Zimmerman, director of security and compliance. 'Passengers boarded the aircraft as if it was a real flight. Flight attendants wore their regular uniforms and conducted a normal preflight safety briefing. The SWAT teams wore full combat gear and carried automatic weapons. And the aircraft was actually taxing toward the runway when the hijacking took place.'

The roles of the hijackers were played by four Arabic-speaking language specialists from the FBI, including one who had been a 'guest' of Saddam Hussien in Baghdad's infamous Abu Ghraib prison. Fifty-three volunteer Alaska Airlines employees served as passengers. Flight attendants Luci Abbrederis, Ronda Ruderman, Robyn Garner and Scott Strickland played the flight crew.

In addition to the training it provided law enforcement officers, the drill gave Alaska Airlines an opportunity to test its terrorism response plan. Among other things, 'we discovered that our notification process needs work, which was a good lesson for us to learn in case this ever happens for real,' said Zimmerman. 'At the same time, our investigation process received high marks. The FBI couldn't believe how fast we were able to produce a passenger manifest with the type of detailed information that would have greatly assisted the response and investigation of a real hijacking.'

Alaska became part of the exercise last July when the FBI asked the airline if it would provide a jet for an elaborate terrorism drill being organized by its crisis management unit in Washington, D.C.

'Thanks to the incredible generosity of Alaska Airlines, we were able to test our crisis response plan to a terrorist hijacking under conditions that were astoundingly realistic,' said Tony Torres, FBI special agent, who helped coordinate the drill. 'This exercise was extremely valuable to our agency and could not have been accomplished without the cooperation of Alaska Airlines in providing an aircraft and personnel.'

Precisely because the exercise revealed flaws in the airline's response plan, Zimmerman feels, 'it was worth all the time and effort we put into it. We received great feedback from people in our Inflight and Flight Operations departments on how we might improve our response plan. This information will be used to enhance the training we give our flight attendants and pilots for dealing with on-board security threats.'

Many of the employee volunteers also said they gained from the experience.

'The drill gave me some insight on how I may react to this type of situation,' said Sherrie Fleming, Alaska resource and support desk training, who played the role of a passenger.

'The FBI agents did an excellent job of drawing us into the scenario,' said Bridget Ferreia, operations agent, who traveled from Fairbanks to participate in the drill. 'There was no laughing them off. They made it all seem very real. It was a great experience. I will now remember the apprehension that I felt and understand how passengers, a family member or my co-workers may feel if this ever happens for real.'

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shanksville debris

Habe dir ja weiter oben eine Seite verlinkt, ich habe New baltimore debris gegoogelt. Aus der Quelle:

Excellent thread....I understand your points, however, I was in Pittsburgh, on that fateful day. My friend from New Jersey called me and told me to quickly look at the LOCAL news and tell her what I saw.... I saw interviews of local citizens who found huge chunks of burned metal and debris, stretching for over 10 miles, including IN Indian Lake. While I understand stuff gets wafted by wind, huge chunks do not. These folks heard explosions and several SAW explosions in the air....all of these interviews quickly disappeared, and I never have seen them again...anywhere....My friend from Jersey smelled a rat right off, which was why she was aware enough to call me and have me report in....our local Pittsburgh news told a completely different tale than the already scripted broadcasts for NYC were telling us....

Alle örtlichen Zeugenaussagen vor Ort wurden binnen Stunden gesäubert. Die Leute vor Ort wissen aber was sie gesehen und gehört haben, nur ist es eben nicht Teil der offiziellen Us Geschichte. Shanksville ist ein neues Roswell.

No plane crash site

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[haihunter]

ja, dieser jemand ist gezielter desinformation augesessen.

Lustig seid Ihr Verschwörungs-Spinner ja schon. Das ist ja auch Eure "Daseinsberechtigung"!

[Marathon]

Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building

By John J. Lumpkin, Associated Press

WASHINGTON — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.

Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.
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"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said
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The National Reconnaissance Office operates many of the nation's spy satellites. It draws its personnel from the military and the CIA.
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"On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.
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[haihunter]

Beispiel für solche Übungen:
NORAD übte Hijackings + Angriffe mit Flugzeugen auf Gebäude

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Mensch, Marathon! Mit der Länge Deiner Beiträge machst Du ja Deinem Nick alle Ehre!

[hephland]

Lustig seid Ihr Verschwörungs-Spinner ja schon. Das ist ja auch Eure "Daseinsberechtigung"!

ich kann an der ganzen geschichte nichts lustiges erkennen. ich finde aber, daß diejenigen, die der offiziellen verschörungstheorie der für notorische lügerei bekannten bush administration völlig kritiklos folgen, ein sehr trauriges bild abgeben.

[Marathon]

Laute Explosionen am WTC nach dem Zusammenfall des Nordturmes:
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Wodurch wurde das verursacht?
Explodierende Transformatoren oder Gasleitungen?

[haihunter]

ich kann an der ganzen geschichte nichts lustiges erkennen. ich finde aber, daß diejenigen, die der offiziellen verschörungstheorie der für notorische lügerei bekannten bush administration völlig kritiklos folgen, ein sehr trauriges bild abgeben.

Am Attentat an sich ist nix Lustiges, sicher nicht. Nur an dem, was Ihr Verschwörungsspinner Euch da alles mögliche kunterbunt zusammenreimt. Da darf dann schon herzlich gelacht werden.

[vista]

Hier ein Auszug aus deiner Internetseite:
"Das WTC-Gebäude hätte nicht zusammenbrechen können, weil Stahl erst ab 1200 Grad Celsius schmilzt, argumentieren die Theoretiker der Verschwörung. Auslaufendes Flugzeugkerosin verbrenne jedoch bei nur 650 Grad.

Doch Stahl verliert weit vor der Schmelze seine Stabilität. 500 Grad reichen, um Stahlstützen zu verbiegen und zu brechen, lehrt schon das Schulbuch.

Exakt dies dürfte im World Trade Center passiert sein. Die Instabilität von einigen Stahlträgern in einem einzigen Stock kann ausgereicht haben, um das Gebäude kaskadenartig einstürzen zu lassen. Ein Stockwerk kracht aufs nächste, der Druck potenziert sich, auch unbeschädigte Träger knicken weg.

Filme im Internet zeigen „Explosionen“, die vor dem Zusammenbruch im oberen Gebäudeteil begannen und sich entlang der Fassade nach unten fortsetzen. Tatsächlich wird es sich dabei um Fenster gehandelt haben, aus denen unter dem Druck der bereits nachgebenden Konstruktion Luft gepresst wurde. "

Kerosin verbrennt bei ca. 600 Grad.
Hochhausbrände mit heißen Gasen werden bis zu 1.000 Grad.
Stahl schmilzt erst ab 1.400 Grad.

Wenn Stahl schon bei 500 Grad brechen sollte, müsste es bei jedem Hochhausbrand so sein. Leider sind die drei WTC-Türme die Einzigsten, die angeblich nur durch Feuer fielen. Daher ist der Artikel der Welt leicht widerlegbar.

Die Pfannenkuchentheorie mit dem Dominoeffekt widersprechen selbst die "Offiziellen". Bei dieser Theorie bleiben nämlich alle 47 Innenträger stehen bzw. werden totgeschwiegen. Die "offiziellen" Verschwörungstheorien wechseln wie die Jahreszeiten, weil sie meistens schnell widerlegt wurden. Diese Theorie deiner Quelle wurde 2006 widerlegt.

Guten Morgen, die Welt.
Guten Morgen, Finch.

Stelle man sich nur einmal vor, da studieren junge Menschen Architektur und Statik. Denen erzählen ihre Professoren diesen Käse. Die verlieren doch schon eingangs des ersten Semesters jeden Glauben an deren Lehre und wenden sich verarscht von diesen Idioten anderen Fachbereichen zu.