Hat sicherlich nichts damit zu tun, dass die ukr. Streitkräft jegliche Untersuchungen unmöglich gemacht haben, indem sie lange keinen Waffenstillstand wollten.:D
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Und das die ukrainischen Streitkräfte den Absturzort um jeden Preis erobern wollten und daher diese Gegend unnötigerweise mit Kriegsterror überzogen. Entweder aus Prestigegründen oder um die Aufklärung um MH17 zu verhindern. Jedenfalls hat Kiev nichts getan um die Aufklärung zu erleichtern, ganz im Gegenteil.
@Manfred Halte bitte dein infantiles, lügnerisches Mundwerk. Danke.
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http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925Zitat:
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
7 August 2014 @ 8:20 AM
KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.
This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.
In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.
This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.
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Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes — the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.
Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.
Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.
Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.
In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”.
“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.
Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.
“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said.
Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.
“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.
“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.”
He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.
“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.
“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.
Auf deutsch:
http://de.ria.ru/society/20140806/269215348.html
Es wird ungemuetlich fuer das Kiever Putschistenregime. Denn die Spuren des Abschusses fuer die MH17 fuehren eindeutig nach Kiev. Gedeckt von den USA, welche in den letzten Jahren sowieso jede Glaubwuerdigkeit verspielt haben.
MfG
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctmb...&feature=share
Willy Wimmer, ehemaliger Staatsminister des Verteidigungsministeriums ist der Meinung das es ein Fehler war die Flugschreiber an England zu uebergeben, weil England persoenlich im Ganzen involviert ist, wie an der Hetze gegen Russland durch die englische Presse zu erkennen ist. Ausserdem spricht er von Tor, welches der Westen aufgetreten hat fuer Krieg, Chaos und Zerstoerung seit dem Jugoslawienkrieg mit Luegen.
So, liebe Freunde der VT, bitte den Schaum vom Mund wischen und das hier lesen:
Die vorläufige Auswertung des Stimmrekorders:
http://www.nst.com.my/node/19598
Demnach war die Kommunikation der Piloten mit dem Tower völlig normal. Der Absturz (oder Ausfall des Funkkontaktes) muß also ohne Vorwarnung innerhalb von Sekundenbruchteilen erfolgt sein. Anderfalls hätte der Pilot einen Notruf gesendet.
In dem Bericht steht auch warum die Auswertung so lange dauert. Von irgendwelchen Manipulationen steht da aber nix drin.
Und um dies herauszufinden, eine vorlaeufige Auswertung, brauchten diese "Experten" in England 2 Wochen? Nachdem was wir mittlerweile zu glauben wissen duerften die Piloten sofort tot gewesen sein, als das ukrainische Militaer das Flugzeug attakierte und das bedeutet das Cockpit sofort getroffen worden ist. Wie wir am Wrackteil ersehen koennen sieht das Cockpit wirklich sehr uebel gerichtet aus.
Was wichtiger ist: Wo bleibt die Veroeffentlichung der vom ukrainischen Geheimdienst beschlagnahmten Fluglotsengespraeche und der Daten der Fluglotsen? Bleiben diese verschwunden oder braucht der dilettantische SBU-Geheimdienst hier ein wenig Hilfe von amerikanischen und britischen Diensten? Wie lange hat es nochmal gedauert bis beim Flug MH370 diese Daten und noch mehr, wie etwa Satelliteninformationen herausgegeben worden sind?
http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b/035&opt=7680
Welche fadenscheinigen Ausreden gibt es beim Flug MH17, diese dieses mal nicht herauszugeben?
MfG
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Das Separatistengesocks macht seit Wochen jede geordnete Untersuchung der Absturzstelle unmöglich. Klar, die wollen unabhängige Untersuchungen verhindern.
Bla, bla, bla. Das übliche Lügengewäsch von Separatisten-, Mörder- und Folterer-Verstehern. THE preliminary analysis of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17’s cockpit voice recorder (CVR) revealed “nothing out of the ordinary”. Die einzigen, die hier täuschen, vertuschen und den Absturzort manipulieren, ist das Separatistengesocks.