Was ist los in Libyen? Ursachen, Wirkung und Entwicklung / Sammelstrang

Somalische Flüchtlinge die von den maltesischen Behörden zu ihrer Flucht befragt wurden berichten über Massenmord und Rassismus gegenüber Schwarzen in Libyen

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Zakaria and a fellow Somali were exhausted after carrying out back-breaking manual labour for a Libyan man who had picked them up in ‘Krimea’, an area of Tripoli where the city’s underclass of sub-Saharan Africans congregate in the hope of finding work.

“When we finished, he told us ‘you are a friend of Gaddafi so I will not pay you, you killed our brothers’. Then he beat us with sticks and threatened us with a gun,” Zakaria tells The Sunday Times.

“Africans are being beaten and killed in Libya and no one there cares,” he adds to nods from his companions inside Lyster Detention Centre, where the 68 Somali asylum seekers rescued at sea last weekend are being housed.

A crowd gathers to share or listen to stories of life in post-revolution Libya for dark-skinned Africans, which are articulated into English by Zakaria and another asylum seeker, Abdul Karim.

‘Murtazaka’ – meaning ‘mercenary’ in Arabic – is a word they all know too well.

“Even now they all call us murtazaka. We cannot say anything because we have nothing and all Libyan men have guns. They say we are the brothers of Gaddafi,” says Abdul Karim.

Libya’s large population of sub-Saharan migrants came under suspicion from the beginning of the Libyan revolution last February, when it was widely reported that Muammar Gaddafi was using dark-skinned mercenaries to brutally suppress protests against his regime.

As the tide gradually swung in favour of the revolutionaries, reports emerged from human rights groups and the media of the killing and arbitrary detention of thousands of dark-skinned Libyans and sub-Saharan Africans accused of supporting Gaddafi, often with no corroborating evidence beyond their skin colour. “Many Somalis were killed and even now they are killing Somalis. We had to stay in our homes as much as possible,” says Zakaria.

Others tell stories of how men came to their homes and demanded money and mobile phones. One man says the most common word he heard directed at him in Libya was a vulgar Arabic word also used in Maltese.

The UNHCR were told similar stories by the new arrivals.

“They told of widespread looting and breaking into houses where sub-Saharan nationals are residing. Men are robbed and beaten; women have been raped – also in recent months. They explained that smugglers provided them with the only possible way out,” a UNHCR spokesman said.

Zakaria believes the main problem is the omnipresence of guns.

“At the moment all Libyans have guns, it is becoming like Somalia – no security and no stability. They have to collect the guns,” he says.

Efforts to unite the former militias under a single military command have so far failed and sporadic fighting between rival factions has continued. Libya’s interim leader warned this month the country risked sliding into civil war if militias were not disarmed.

Alarmingly, both Abdul Karim and Zakaria claim that they paid armed Libyan militiamen $400 each to facilitate their crossing of the Mediterranean.

The Sunday Times asked for clarification: did they pay the money to revolutionaries? “Of course, they were militia from the revolution. All of them are militia now, and there is much corruption,” says Abdul Karim.

“Many Libyan men wear uniforms now like that one (he points at a soldier in the room), even children wear them,” he adds.

Sub-Saharan Africans made similar claims in an article published by AFP on December 6. After their Europe-bound boat was intercepted by Libyan forces following its departure from Libya, they accused the former rebels of “organising this set-up”.

Last Thursday, AFP reported the Libyan Interior Ministry’s claim that 260 irregular migrants had been intercepted as they tried to enter Libya with three armed Libyans.

But Malta’s new arrivals prefer to look to the future.

“Our only hope is to live a safe life,” says Zakaria. “At least here we feel safe.”

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http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles...omalia-.403274

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NTC-Ratten dezimieren sich selbst. :hihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqE1...layer_embedded

Vizepräsident des Rebellenrates tritt zurück:

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Abdel Hafiz Ghoga, vice-president of the NTC and one of the council's highest-profile members, was the target of some of the protesters' criticism. Last week, students jostled him when he visited a university in Benghazi and he had to be pulled to safety.

"My resignation is for the benefit of the nation and is required at this stage," Ghoga told Al Jazeera television.

He said the national consensus that helped the country rise up and end Gaddafi's 42-year rule had not lasted into peace-time, giving way to what he called an atmosphere of hatred.

"I do not want this atmosphere to continue and negatively affect the National Transitional Council and its performance," said Ghoga, who also acted as the NTC's spokesman.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...80L0CX20120122

Der Bürgermeister von Bengasi trat ebenfalls zurück. Grund waren auch hier die gewaltsamen Proteste in den letzten Tagen.

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Zitat von Beobachter

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NTC-Ratten dezimieren sich selbst. :hihi:

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Von den Gaddafi-Anhängern hört man nichts. Für mich ist das ein Beleg oder zumindest ein Indiz, dass Gaddafi nur wenig Rückhalt beim libyischen Volk hatte. Er hatte viele Feinde.

Dass er solange regieren konnte, lag wohl an den vielen Indifferenten und an der Unterstützung durch ausländische Söldner, die entweder tot, in Gefangenschaft oder wieder in ihrer Heimat sind.

Eilmeldung!!!!

Grüne Soldaten haben gerade eine NTC-Rattenbasis in der Nähe von Bani Walid angegriffen und mindestens 4 Ratten getötet!!!

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An armed group loyal to slain Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi on Monday launched an attack on a base belonging to former rebels in Bani Walid, a one-time bastion of the former leader, a local official told AFP.

"The compound of thuwars (anti-Gaddafi revolutionaries) is surrounded on all sides by loyalists of Gaddafi who are attacking it with all kinds of weapons," said M'barek Al-Fotmani, a local official who previously was a member of the ruling National Transitional Council in Bani Walid, located 170 kilometres (106 miles) southwest of Tripoli.

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http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCont...ibya-Offi.aspx

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Zitat von Bettmaen;5112992[B

]Von den Gaddafi-Anhängern hört man nichts. Für mich ist das ein Beleg oder zumindest ein Indiz, dass Gaddafi nur wenig Rückhalt beim libyischen Volk hatte. Er hatte viele Feinde. [/B]

Dass er solange regieren konnte, lag wohl an den vielen Indifferenten und an der Unterstützung durch ausländische Söldner, die entweder tot, in Gefangenschaft oder wieder in ihrer Heimat sind.

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Das hat wohl eher damit zu tun, dass die Massenmedien kaum noch über Libyen berichten. Der grüne Widerstand ist auch weiterhin aktiv.

Auch Press TV berichtet jetzt darüber:

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The incident took place on Monday, when Gaddafi loyalists attacked a base in his former bastion of Bani Walid. At least another 20 have been injured in the attack.

"There are around 100 and 150 men armed with heavy weapons who are attacking. We have asked for the army to intervene, but the defense ministry and National Transitional Council (NTC ) have let us down," Mahmud Warfelli, spokesman of the Bani Walid local council said.

According to former NTC member M'barek al-Fotmani, armed Gaddafi loyalists surrounded the compound on all sides.

Earlier, the deputy head of Libya's ruling National Transitional Council (NTC), Abdel Hafiz Ghoga announced his resignation, after students in Benghazi stormed the local headquarters of the NTC.

Following the popular uprising of the Libyan people, NATO launched a major air campaign against the forces of the former regime on March 19, 2011 under a UN mandate to “protect the Libyan population.” However, NATO has been accused of committing war crimes and violating human rights in Libya.

Protesters have been holding regular demonstrations in Benghazi for several weeks, demanding the ouster of Gaddafi-era officials and more transparency about how the NTC is spending Libyan assets.

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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/222645.html

Laut neuesten Meldungen von NTC-Ratten haben die grünen Soldaten Bani Walid heute zurückerobert. In ganz Bani Walid wird wieder die grüne Fahne gehisst.

https://twitter.com/#!/AlArabiya_Eng

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Zitat von Bettmaen

Von den Gaddafi-Anhängern hört man nichts. Für mich ist das ein Beleg oder zumindest ein Indiz, dass Gaddafi nur wenig Rückhalt beim libyischen Volk hatte. Er hatte viele Feinde.

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Dann hat der NTC aber noch mehr Feinde, denn der wird schon 3 Monate nach Machtergreifung vom Volk aufgeknüpft. Und einen echten Mehrheitswillen gibt es im Nahen Osten sowieso nicht. Das läuft alles in Stammesstrukturen ab. Wenn z.B. der Führer eines 1-Mio.-Stammes sich gegen Gaddafi stellt, dann ziehen eben die 1 Million mit. Genauso schnell kann es aber auch wieder umgekehrt laufen. Viele stellten sich außerdem erst gegen Gaddafi, nachdem sie den Propagandamärchen des NTC auf den Leim gingen.

Na ja, Tripolis fiel wie ein Kartenhaus zusammen, als Gaddafis Feinde von den Engländern und Franzosen dorthin transportiert wurden. Gaddafi ließ die Bevölkerung der Stadt, die als seine Hochburg galt, bewaffnen. Die Tripolitaner machten aber kaum Anstalten, gegen die Rebellen vorzugehen.

Wir regen uns ja zu recht über die westliche Obrigkeit auf, weil sie Ausländer bevorzugt und mit Gewalt eine Umvolkung betreibt. In Libyen waren auch viele Einheimische mächtig sauer, weil Gaddafi die einheimischen Schwarzen bevorzugte und weitere Schwarze ansiedelte. Internationalismus ist am schönsten, wenn die Fremden in ihrer Heimat bleiben. Sobald sie in großer Zahl einwandern und Stress machen, schlägt die Sympathie in puren Hass um. Kennen wir doch von irgendwo.