ein Blödman meldet sich zu Wort ....

[Rheinlaender]

falsch, im sinne des Völkerrechts und Genfer Konvention ist diese Anwendung dieser Massenvernichtungswaffen gegenüber Zivilpersonen verboten

Da irrst Du - Beide verlangen nur eine anwaegung, ob die Schaedigung der Zivilpersonen im Verhaeltnis zum millitaerischen Nutzen steht.

Japan hat gewaehlt. Der kaiser haette den krieg nich beginnen brauchen, er haette jederzeit, wie Hitler auch den Krieg beenden koennen: Eine dipl. Note haette ausgereicht. Er wollte nicht und wie im Voelkerrecht ueblich, muessen die Unterthanen fuer ihren Souveraen den Kopf hinhalten.

[Sterntaler]

Komisch das der Kaiser noch etliche Jahre danach immer noch auf seinen Thron saß. Erzähl keinen Unsinn. Es war ein Signal gegenüber Russland, seht mal was wir haben.....

[dr-esperanto]

Am 26 Jul. 1945 haben die Allierten in Potsdam die Bedingungen fuer die japanische Kapitulation festgelegt:

" (b)Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender, July 26, 1945

(1) We-The President of the United States, the President of the National Government of the Republic of China, and the Prime Minister of Great Britain, representing the hundreds of millions of our countrymen, have conferred and agree that Japan shall be given an opportunity to end this war.

(2) The prodigious land, sea and air forces of the United States, the British Empire and of China, many times reinforced by their armies and air fleets from the west, are poised to strike the final blows upon Japan. This military power is sustained and inspired by the determination of all the Allied Nations to prosecute the war against Japan until she ceases to resist.

(3) The result of the futile and senseless German resistance to the might of the aroused free peoples of the world stands forth in awful clarity as an example to the people of Japan. The might that now converges on Japan is immeasurably greater than that which, when applied to the resisting Nazis, necessarily laid waste to the lands, the industry and the method of life of the whole German people. The full application of our military power, backed by our resolve, All mean the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland.

(4) The time has come for Japan to decide whether she will continue to be controlled by those self-willed militaristic advisers whose unintelligent calculations have brought the Empire of Japan to the threshold of annihilation, or whether she will follow the path of reason.

(5) Following are our terms. We will not deviate from them. There are no alternatives. We shall brook no delay.

(6) There must be eliminated for all time the authority and influence of those who have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world conquest, for we insist that a new order of peace security and justice will be impossible until irresponsible militarism is driven from the world.

(7) Until such a new order is established and until there is convincing proof that Japan's war-making power is destroyed, points in Japanese territory to be designated by the Allies shall be occupied to secure the achievement of the basic objectives we are here setting forth.

(8) The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.

(9) The Japanese military forces, after being completely disarmed, shall be permitted to return to their homes with the opportunity to lead peaceful and productive lives.

(10) We do not intend that the Japanese shall be enslaved as a race or destroyed as a nation, but stern justice shall be meted out to all war criminals, including those who have visited cruelties upon our prisoners. The Japanese Government shall remove all obstacles to the revival and strengthening of democratic tendencies among the Japanese people. Freedom of speech, of religion, and of thought, as well as respect for the fundamental human rights shall be established.

(11) Japan shall be permitted to maintain such industries as will sustain her economy and permit the exaction of just reparations in kind, but not those [industries] which would enable her to re-arm for war. To this end, access to, as distinguished from control of, raw materials shall be permitted. Eventual Japanese participation in world trade relations shall be permitted.

(12) The occupying forces of the Allies shall be withdrawn from Japan as soon as these objectives have been accomplished and there has been established in accordance with the freely expressed will of the Japanese people a peacefully inclined and responsible government.

(13) We call upon the government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional surrender of all Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate assurances of their good faith in such action. The alternative for Japan is prompt and utter destruction. "

Japan hat auf dieses Angebot nicht reagiert und erst fast eine Woche, am 15 Aug. 1945, nach dem Abwurf der letzten Bombe am 9. Aug. 1945 angenommen.


Da scheinst du wohl Recht zu haben. Die waren aber auch störrisch, diese Japaner! Dass sie gerade an Mariä Himmelfahrt kapituliert haben, haben wir bestimmt auch der Fürsprache der Gottesmutter zu verdanken...

[dr-esperanto]

Nein - Japan bekam ein Angebot zur Kapitulation, Japan hat nicht agenommen, das bedeutete, die Kampfhandlungen gingen weiter, troz der eindeutigen Warnung: "The alternative for Japan is prompt and utter destruction.". Japan hatte die Wahl und hat "prompte und vollstaendige Zerstoerung" gewaehlt. Die Verantwortung liegt bei der Kaiserl. Japansichen Regierung.

Wie störrisch und verbissen die Japaner sind, sieht man ja auch an den Kamikaze-Bombern (den Vorläufern der lebenden arabischen Bomben).

[Sterntaler]

Wie störrisch und verbissen die Japaner sind, sieht man ja auch an den Kamikaze-Bombern (den Vorläufern der lebenden arabischen Bomben).

was heißt störrisch? das war deren Kampfgeist, rechtfertigt das aus "Christlicher Sicht" hunderttausende Menschen mit ner Atombombe auszulöschen? :vogel:

[Sterntaler]

wer ich? da bist du aber ganz auf dem Holzweg, wo geht dies hervor? :vogel:

[Ernesto-Che]

Hier melden sich soviele Blödmänner zu Wort - da fällt einer mehr - oder weniger - garnicht auf !!!
Aber schön hier ... soviel Schwachsinn findet man sonst nirgendwo !!!

[malnachdenken]

was du bist, das habe ich dir gesagt.
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Eher: Was Du dir einbildest, was ich sei, hast Du mir gesagt.